Cool Cans? - Page 2

Chad Rhodes · 11-27-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LNorton

Chad,

Would we be able to put 50-60psi of fuel pressure through this new cool can? It is something I have wanted to try for consistency with a slow fuel injected car, but never wanted to put that much pressure to the moroso unit.

i believe so. However let me check with them monday and I will give you a 100% answer

bobby · 11-28-2008, 10:26 AM

Ice doesn't last very long with a return system. If you have a "deadhead" regulator, it's will last at least a run or two. But with a return system, you will be lucky to get to the staging lanes b4 you need to reice it.

zracer305 · 11-28-2008, 01:04 PM

Anyone ever do back to back runs with can and then w/o ice in the can? Would be interested to see what the ET pickups are, if any.

Ed Wright · 11-28-2008, 04:56 PM

"Back in the day" my cars were quicker using them. We had to run the fuel through the factory mechanical fuel pumps then, but Stockers were much more stock than todays cars. EFI cars don't have engine mounted pumps to put heat in the fuel, so I'm not sure how much it would be worth. That is something I have wanted to test. Anybody know how or if lower temps would effect fuel checks?

Duane Eiskant II · 11-28-2008, 05:22 PM

The colder the fuel, the denser the charge so the faster it will go. Now, depending on the fuel you use it may or may not show a difference. Back in the day when i ran purple (cam II) it didnt make a difference. Now when i switched to the supreme, i had a issue with the cool can and didnt use it. The car slowed down .04. Good thing i had the bye that round. Chad let me know about the #10 cool can. I made a #10 line to the carb and the only restriction in my system now is the cool can. (only 3/8 pipe fittings). That why the fuel flow will pick up going to the carb. Thanks, Duane

Phil Veldheer Racing · 11-28-2008, 06:00 PM

I use the Moroso and I am very happy with it. Never had a problem.

Phil

bobby · 11-28-2008, 09:47 PM

I have picked up about .05 on a hot day. Cooler days you won't pick up as much. Fuel is already cool. Another thing I use to do is put my fuel jug in an Igloo packed with ice. I ran just as consistent as with a cool can. I would always drain al the fuel out of my tank before each race (not round) and fill it up with the cool fuel and did away with the cool can. We usually started racing in the late afternoon and being the tank in the trunk it wouldn't have enough time to heat backup. Enclosed trailers are nice,

. Worked for me anyway.

jmdavison · 11-29-2008, 07:25 PM

Ran one back in the old days when fuel had to run thru the stock pump as said previously, but didn't see much diff after going to elec pumps mtd in back. Tried icing manifold in SS car and that works better, the only problem was keeping the intake charge temp constant. The only time I do it now is in a heads up race when everything is on kill. I found consistancy suffers if you try and do it all the time, because of temp differences ie: air, track, underhood etc. My 2 cents, Good Luck

I do use and insulating material around the fuel lines under the hood to protect from heat.

Chad Rhodes · 12-02-2008, 03:45 PM

Here are the pics of the -8 Smax Cool Can. All Billett, nice welds, fit and finish is good, could easliy be polished to a mirror shine

Doug Domm · 12-02-2008, 04:04 PM

Now that is what a cool can should look like! I am not the least bit impressed with the moroso super cool can after taking mine apart. I'm sorry but it does show a weak link in the sealing dept. as mine filled the bucket with fuel and you can plainly see why after dismantling and I really question the fuel flow capabilities. Anyone else had theirs apart? Moroso does sell new gaskets but not that readily available. Part no.65125160 for the gasket.

11-28-2008, 10:26 AM	#12
bobby Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: League City, Texas Posts: 243 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? Ice doesn't last very long with a return system. If you have a "deadhead" regulator, it's will last at least a run or two. But with a return system, you will be lucky to get to the staging lanes b4 you need to reice it. __________________ Next time wave all of your fingers at me.

11-28-2008, 01:04 PM	#13
zracer305 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 108 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? Anyone ever do back to back runs with can and then w/o ice in the can? Would be interested to see what the ET pickups are, if any.

11-28-2008, 04:56 PM	#14
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? "Back in the day" my cars were quicker using them. We had to run the fuel through the factory mechanical fuel pumps then, but Stockers were much more stock than todays cars. EFI cars don't have engine mounted pumps to put heat in the fuel, so I'm not sure how much it would be worth. That is something I have wanted to test. Anybody know how or if lower temps would effect fuel checks? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

11-28-2008, 05:22 PM	#15
Duane Eiskant II Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 501 Likes: 261 Liked 57 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? The colder the fuel, the denser the charge so the faster it will go. Now, depending on the fuel you use it may or may not show a difference. Back in the day when i ran purple (cam II) it didnt make a difference. Now when i switched to the supreme, i had a issue with the cool can and didnt use it. The car slowed down .04. Good thing i had the bye that round. Chad let me know about the #10 cool can. I made a #10 line to the carb and the only restriction in my system now is the cool can. (only 3/8 pipe fittings). That why the fuel flow will pick up going to the carb. Thanks, Duane __________________ Duane Eiskant 1354 Stock/Super Stock

11-28-2008, 06:00 PM	#16
Phil Veldheer Racing Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Holland, MICHIGAN Posts: 155 Likes: 43 Liked 26 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? I use the Moroso and I am very happy with it. Never had a problem. Phil __________________ PHIL VELDHEER 3455 STK IHRA WORLD Record Holder 2007-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16

11-28-2008, 09:47 PM	#17
bobby Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: League City, Texas Posts: 243 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? I have picked up about .05 on a hot day. Cooler days you won't pick up as much. Fuel is already cool. Another thing I use to do is put my fuel jug in an Igloo packed with ice. I ran just as consistent as with a cool can. I would always drain al the fuel out of my tank before each race (not round) and fill it up with the cool fuel and did away with the cool can. We usually started racing in the late afternoon and being the tank in the trunk it wouldn't have enough time to heat backup. Enclosed trailers are nice, . Worked for me anyway. __________________ Next time wave all of your fingers at me. Last edited by bobby; 11-28-2008 at 09:48 PM. Reason: misspelling

11-29-2008, 07:25 PM	#18
jmdavison Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 88 Likes: 3 Liked 16 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? Ran one back in the old days when fuel had to run thru the stock pump as said previously, but didn't see much diff after going to elec pumps mtd in back. Tried icing manifold in SS car and that works better, the only problem was keeping the intake charge temp constant. The only time I do it now is in a heads up race when everything is on kill. I found consistancy suffers if you try and do it all the time, because of temp differences ie: air, track, underhood etc. My 2 cents, Good Luck I do use and insulating material around the fuel lines under the hood to protect from heat. Last edited by jmdavison; 11-29-2008 at 07:27 PM. Reason: forgot one thing

12-02-2008, 03:45 PM	#19
Chad Rhodes VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL Posts: 2,375 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? Here are the pics of the -8 Smax Cool Can. All Billett, nice welds, fit and finish is good, could easliy be polished to a mirror shine __________________ Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA

12-02-2008, 04:04 PM	#20
Doug Domm Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: canada Posts: 251 Likes: 28 Liked 84 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Cool Cans? Now that is what a cool can should look like! I am not the least bit impressed with the moroso super cool can after taking mine apart. I'm sorry but it does show a weak link in the sealing dept. as mine filled the bucket with fuel and you can plainly see why after dismantling and I really question the fuel flow capabilities. Anyone else had theirs apart? Moroso does sell new gaskets but not that readily available. Part no.65125160 for the gasket.