AA/SA requirements?

Alan Roehrich · 12-18-2008, 08:54 AM

There's a lot of confusion out there, several people have been told different tales. I know we were told we had to have the certified cage (we already had it) a full face helmet, the jacket, the pants, and a transmission and flexplate shield. For the most part, it has to be the same as a 9.99 or quicker Super Stock car. And you have to have the license. Others were told if you did not break the 10.0 barrier, you didn't have to have any of it, despite the record being well under 9.99. And some were told you had to have the cage, the helmet, and the clothes.

I can remember a time when it was a lot simpler. You had to have the safety equipment required under "General Regulations" for the ET and MPH of the record for your class. Now it depends on who you talk to, when, and where you race.

Chad Rhodes · 12-18-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

There's a lot of confusion out there, several people have been told different tales. I know we were told we had to have the certified cage (we already had it) a full face helmet, the jacket, the pants, and a transmission and flexplate shield. For the most part, it has to be the same as a 9.99 or quicker Super Stock car. And you have to have the license. Others were told if you did not break the 10.0 barrier, you didn't have to have any of it, despite the record being well under 9.99. And some were told you had to have the cage, the helmet, and the clothes.

I can remember a time when it was a lot simpler. You had to have the safety equipment required under "General Regulations" for the ET and MPH of the record for your class. Now it depends on who you talk to, when, and where you race.

Ain't that the truth Alan. We've been told so many different things its not funny.

Ken Miele · 12-18-2008, 10:02 AM

Alan, Chad,

When I tech in, I was never asked about trans shield or flex shield. Only cage, jacket and helmet. It might be that some AA cars do not run in the nines so they don't bother, who knows. I know somewhere in the general regulations its says that stock and super stock may have there own requirements. That's not the exact words, but it was something like that.

Stewart Way · 12-18-2008, 11:07 AM

On the cage issue there seems to be some confusion on SFI Spec and NHRA Cert. There is no SFI Certification. They have a spec for full body cages for non tube chassis cars. Think 25.2 is 7.49 and quicker and 25.5 is 7.50 to 8 49. For 9.99 to 8.50 it is the NHRA spec that is in the rulebook. SFI does not sell a spec for the 9.99 to 8.50 cage. You can order the others from their website for $35 each. NHRA will certify all 3 cages and apply a sticker to the car. The stockers and super stockers between 9.99 and 8.50 (AA/SA if quicker than 9.99) need only have the cage outlined in the rulebook. Quicker than 8.50, like some SS/AH cars and the cage needs to be up graded to a SFI 25.5 and recertified.

Ken Miele · 12-18-2008, 11:15 AM

Stewart, you are correct. I just assumed Doug new this.

Kent · 12-18-2008, 10:47 PM

I asked once about SS/CS 10.65 index and was told I needed a full cage and license and all the other safety stuff for a 9.99 or faster by a Div 1 official at an event. Which makes no sense when .60 under still won't put me under that et. Can someone explain this?

Alan Roehrich · 12-18-2008, 11:27 PM

That may have been an "old school" official. As I mentioned earlier, it used to be that you needed all safety equipment required to run the record for your class, whether or not you could actually go that quick/fast. They assumed that your ultimate goal was to run at least as fast as the record.

12-18-2008, 08:54 AM	#1
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,138 Likes: 1,617 Liked 1,928 Times in 434 Posts	Re: AA/SA requirements? There's a lot of confusion out there, several people have been told different tales. I know we were told we had to have the certified cage (we already had it) a full face helmet, the jacket, the pants, and a transmission and flexplate shield. For the most part, it has to be the same as a 9.99 or quicker Super Stock car. And you have to have the license. Others were told if you did not break the 10.0 barrier, you didn't have to have any of it, despite the record being well under 9.99. And some were told you had to have the cage, the helmet, and the clothes. I can remember a time when it was a lot simpler. You had to have the safety equipment required under "General Regulations" for the ET and MPH of the record for your class. Now it depends on who you talk to, when, and where you race. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

12-18-2008, 10:02 AM	#3
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,946 Likes: 485 Liked 17,661 Times in 1,606 Posts	Re: AA/SA requirements? Alan, Chad, When I tech in, I was never asked about trans shield or flex shield. Only cage, jacket and helmet. It might be that some AA cars do not run in the nines so they don't bother, who knows. I know somewhere in the general regulations its says that stock and super stock may have there own requirements. That's not the exact words, but it was something like that.

12-18-2008, 11:07 AM	#4
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 20 Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts	Re: AA/SA requirements? On the cage issue there seems to be some confusion on SFI Spec and NHRA Cert. There is no SFI Certification. They have a spec for full body cages for non tube chassis cars. Think 25.2 is 7.49 and quicker and 25.5 is 7.50 to 8 49. For 9.99 to 8.50 it is the NHRA spec that is in the rulebook. SFI does not sell a spec for the 9.99 to 8.50 cage. You can order the others from their website for $35 each. NHRA will certify all 3 cages and apply a sticker to the car. The stockers and super stockers between 9.99 and 8.50 (AA/SA if quicker than 9.99) need only have the cage outlined in the rulebook. Quicker than 8.50, like some SS/AH cars and the cage needs to be up graded to a SFI 25.5 and recertified.

12-18-2008, 11:15 AM	#5
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,946 Likes: 485 Liked 17,661 Times in 1,606 Posts	Re: AA/SA requirements? Stewart, you are correct. I just assumed Doug new this.

12-18-2008, 10:47 PM	#6
Kent Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 15 Likes: 3 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: AA/SA requirements? I asked once about SS/CS 10.65 index and was told I needed a full cage and license and all the other safety stuff for a 9.99 or faster by a Div 1 official at an event. Which makes no sense when .60 under still won't put me under that et. Can someone explain this?

12-18-2008, 11:27 PM	#7
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,138 Likes: 1,617 Liked 1,928 Times in 434 Posts	Re: AA/SA requirements? That may have been an "old school" official. As I mentioned earlier, it used to be that you needed all safety equipment required to run the record for your class, whether or not you could actually go that quick/fast. They assumed that your ultimate goal was to run at least as fast as the record. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S