oil retention devices

[Bill Marshall]

Originally Posted by blown hemi 526

It should absolutely happen !!! Every car that goes to a national event, divisional or open should be required to have an oil containment system - end of story !!

People want data on how and when a stocker or super stocker has oil the track? How about the Dutch Classic 2 years ago - my buddy was racing there and said they were down for 6 ++ hours because of stockers blowing up - they then cancelled the day.

If you are wheelstanding and worried about ruining the diaper - that means you are hitting your oil pan or frame - you have bigger issues !!

And since when do we need proof of past problems - why in the world do I have to run a -15 suit. Show me the data of how many people suffer burns over their body because they had a -5 on?

The rule should simply be you race div or nationally - everyone has to have it on - you bracket race locally 10.99 and faster you need it as well.

You can buy a diaper for $149 so I dont want to hear it's bull**** and they are killing us with costs - my suit was 1800 !!!

Sorry if it sounds like a rant - but the topic is a joke and should really be a non issue

you dont have a stock or super stock car so maybe you dont understand the limited area we have to try and fit a diaper my steering just misses my oil pan by maybe 1/8 inch and we are not aloud to touch that in these cars
secondly i have a car that wheel stands to high on occasion but most of the time it is under control but if the conditions are right it will go way in the air and just ligntly touch the track with the oil pan thats not a bigger issue unless NHRA want to let us change the steering and some other things that would have to be done this is not a good idea one other thing it is not cost of the diaper that is upsettingit it is the cost of getting then to fit in my case it will cost me about $1500 dollars new headers etc.etc.

[Jeff Teuton]

I think at Houston I will try to get some of the Tech guys to come over and look at one of these SS cars on the lift, and see the problem in detail. It's really tight in there with steering, headers, oil pan, frame etc especially with an older model car. The AH cars are probably the worst, but some of the cars with tricky headers might easily be worse.

[Ed Fernandez]

See below Mr blown hemi.You answered your own question.Since you seem to be able to see the future,how about giving me the Powerball winning numbers for tomorrow night.

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If it was not the stockers oiling the track all day then why is this even being mentioned to becoming a rule ??
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To much money for NHRA to skim off the diaper companies to let this one go. First it was the muffler rule and they made a ton of money from the skim on that and now it will be this

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

I think at Houston I will try to get some of the Tech guys to come over and look at one of these SS cars on the lift, and see the problem in detail. It's really tight in there with steering, headers, oil pan, frame etc especially with an older model car. The AH cars are probably the worst, but some of the cars with tricky headers might easily be worse.

Jeff teuton,

Like an FE...


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
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[Floyd Gomez]

OK is it your brother or a friend of yours wwhich is what you claimed in your first post? You can't get that straight so how can you have the facts straight when YOU were NOT there?

Originally Posted by blown hemi 526

of course I run a diaper on the car - it's mandatory - as it will be for you as well next year.
Do I run stock - no but my brother does in Div 1 and he is the one that told me the FACTS. Anyone from the Div 1 office ( BOB LANG) should feel free to comment about this.

If it was not the stockers oiling the track all day then why is this even being mentioned to becoming a rule ??

If they dont make it a rule I can give a ratts *** - it's my opinion that anything that races on the nat and div level should have them. And sorry to burst everyones bubble - in time you will have them. Maybe it wont be next year, but def in a few years.

To much money for NHRA to skim off the diaper companies to let this one go. First it was the muffler rule and they made a ton of money from the skim on that and now it will be this.

Such is life. Either way time will tell - but if I were to bet on it I would say within 2-3 years we all run the diaper.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

So 7 pages into this I guess I'll ask; Why do I need an "oil retention device" on my 13 second Stocker when a Bracket Dragster doesn't need one till 7.49?

So we're now 11 pages in and no one can answer my question? Could it be that my 13 second Stocker is going down a National Event track and a Bracket Dragster isn't?

[Floyd Gomez]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

So we're now 11 pages in and no one can answer my question? Could it be that my 13 second Stocker is going down a National Event track and a Bracket Dragster isn't?

Billy
You are correct. Some tracks have mandated it in bracket cars running faster than 10.99. Others haven't. In my opinion what has happened is this. A manufacturer of these diapers has gone to NHRA and said "Hey I have this device that will save time and money from oil downs. If you mandate it on all cars running National Events and Divisional Events you can ensure less down time." NHRA agrees with no data to back it up. I don't fault the companies for trying to sell their product. A business owner has that duty to keep his company operating. I do however have a problem with a company trying to sell a product knowing that historical data shows that some cars and classes just don't need this product.

[Sean Marconette]

Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

Billy
You are correct. Some tracks have mandated it in bracket cars running faster than 10.99. Others haven't. In my opinion what has happened is this. A manufacturer of these diapers has gone to NHRA and said "Hey I have this device that will save time and money from oil downs. If you mandate it on all cars running National Events and Divisional Events you can ensure less down time." NHRA agrees with no data to back it up. I don't fault the companies for trying to sell their product. A business owner has that duty to keep his company operating. I do however have a problem with a company trying to sell a product knowing that historical data shows that some cars and classes just don't need this product.

Amen!!!

Well unless you do a burnout at 8K?

Sean

[Floyd Gomez]

Hey no pickin on my buddy Drooze now!! LOL

Originally Posted by Sean Marconette

Amen!!!

Well unless you do a burnout at 8K?

Sean

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

Hey no pickin on my buddy Drooze now!! LOL

Lol...twernt me.....twas the old man...(pointing to Las Vegas where he decided to go......uhhhh....prepare our pit spot)

I kept the car at 37% throttle (+/- 1.5%) everytime I burnt it out.....or didnt burn it out....sometimes way too short, but I got logs up to that point at least.......

Does the NHRA require Stereo Capacitors to be "Approved" ? I cant find em in the guide ......