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Old 11-13-2024, 02:07 PM   #141
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Mark, again I'm done with the hood on Joe's car BUT the GM archives says differently although it IS kinda confusing.
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Old 11-13-2024, 07:01 PM   #142
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How many 68-69 GTS darts came with a flat hood new and how many run in NHRA stock eliminator? I guess it isn't about the hood. Too many different GM combos for myself to know.

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Old 11-13-2024, 07:27 PM   #143
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[QUOTE=Mark Yacavone;705455]First off Congrats to Joe and Hal
Well deserved for two guys who actually assemble their own engines and transmissions.

About the hood }
I have a good friend who bought a used Camaro (68, not 69). It was ordered with a 295 / 350 engine, Powerglide trans, column shifter, bench seat, and small dog dish style hubcaps .
It was badged as a SS car, but sure didn't look it from a few feet away. .
Anyway , it DID have the raised hood with the chrome simulated ports inserts on it.
I wonder if the original buyer knew you could un-order the heavier SS hood?
Again this was a 68 car. Interesting !
Also , we raced a 68 Chevy II ,that was ordered as a big block car ,with rubber floor mats . We ran it as a 350 /295 PG combo. Of course it had to have the SS hood on it.

As a matter of fact, as long as I've been racing, which is more than a few years, anything that came from GM @ 295 horse or more had to have a SS hood , or cowl induction on Camaros

Again, very interesting ...Who knew?[/QUOTE

I race a 1968 Camaro. I have a 350/295 engine and a 327/275 engine. NHRA tech told me that I had to have the SS hood when running the 350. I could and do run the 327 with the SS hood or I could run a flat hood with the 327. That was many years ago. Maybe they changed their interpretation now days. I have never actually weighed them to see how much lighter the flat hood is compared to the SS hood. 67 and 68 can not run a cowl hood. I tried that and was rejected.
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Old 11-13-2024, 10:12 PM   #144
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Joe and his brother Hal have probably forgotten more than many people know about how to make a car run fast. They make great horsepower and let their car talk for them. They are friends of mine and when they talk, people listen.
And I will add they do all their own work-no bubble packers here!
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Old 11-13-2024, 10:21 PM   #145
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As far as 68 Camaro with cowl hood...
I understand that there was exactly ONE 68 built with the cowl hood...
And it was a GM demo/display car...

Fact or fiction...

And cowl hoods on 69s was not as many as one would think percentage wise...
Pace cars, COPOs, SOME Z-28, and SOME SS cars...?

Also as far as weight goes...
The SS hood and cowl hood have to weigh near the same as they both use the same hoodhinge spring and the flat hoods used a lighter spring...
And I have no idea about actual weights either...

And at one time didn't you have to run the correct SS hood for the year model?...
Seems I remember they used to be picky about trim and emblems...

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Old 11-14-2024, 08:34 AM   #146
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I also noticed the Alf Weibe ladder bar suspension. Nothing better!
Ed,

A few questions.

1) Is Alf's product available for purchase?

2) What are those black boxes on the top of the dashboard?

3) Is that a temperature sensor on the differential cover?

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Also as far as weight goes...
The SS hood and cowl hood have to weigh near the same as they both use the same hoodhinge spring and the flat hoods used a lighter spring...
And I have no idea about actual weights either...
Between 15 and 20 lbs.. The SS hood is a heavier spring. A flat hood spring won't hold up an SS hood. Ask me how I know (ouch), I've had a couple of them.
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Old 11-14-2024, 09:56 AM   #148
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Mark, again I'm done with the hood on Joe's car BUT the GM archives says differently although it IS kinda confusing.
A few years ago I approached our General Motors guy about the whole 1969 Camaro hood deal. He wouldn't accept that most Z-28s didn't come with a cowl hood!!

I think that the only way to prove hood availability in both the 255 and 300 combinations is to find a real invoice for a car equipped the way a competitor is claiming.
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Old 11-14-2024, 10:49 AM   #149
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Ed,

A few questions.

1) Is Alf's product available for purchase?

2) What are those black boxes on the top of the dashboard?

3) Is that a temperature sensor on the differential cover?

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Old 11-14-2024, 02:18 PM   #150
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Oh I'd LOVE to see a copy of that letter and who signed it! I'm sure Jerry Mcniesh and about a hundred different Racers in Stock and SS would too!
I'm calling BS on that one.
It didn't come from the same guy who came up with the paperwork for the 780 Holleys and Edelbrock intakes on the AMCs did it?
You can call BS all you want but first, you should know that Sean Cour is NOT a guy who offers BS ~ I've known Sean since he was pulling on daddy's pant leg way back in the 70's and he is the real deal.
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