2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes - Page 18

novassdude · 11-03-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman

The basic truth about the current situation is that it is unfair to the first car to leave, whether it's an A Stocker or a W stocker. IF he redlights, he has just deprived the second car to leave of HIS chance to redlight... maybe worse than the other car did.

When you find a list of people that felt they were Deprived by not having a chance to redlight I would like to see it. I for one have never heard a racer say he was deprived of getting to redlight.

Ed Wright · 11-03-2010, 05:02 PM

As Tony said, it ain't gonna happen, may as well give it a rest.

Jim Cassels · 11-03-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by novassdude

When you find a list of people that felt they were Deprived by not having a chance to redlight I would like to see it. I for one have never heard a racer say he was deprived of getting to redlight.

All Bill is saying is the last to leave should be less red to win the round, and he is right.

bill dedman · 11-03-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by novassdude

When you find a list of people that felt they were Deprived by not having a chance to redlight I would like to see it. I for one have never heard a racer say he was deprived of getting to redlight.

How would you like being the guy in the other lane? Do you think that guy is getting a fair shake from the setup as it exists, when his opponent never has to face ANY red light jeopardy when that first-to-leave car goes red?

Nobody deserves a free ride like that.

If that seems fair to you, I have some beachfront property in Arizona I'd like to talk to you about.... and, a bridge!

Thanks to all who've commented!

Tony Janes · 11-03-2010, 09:13 PM

Bill I know you are not going give up. I still race and this is something I could care less about.There are way more important things in drag racing than the first or worse red light.

bill dedman · 11-04-2010, 01:18 AM

Tony, you are one of my all-time heroes. You have been there RACING the whole way. I have nothing but the utmost respect for you. I ran a sedan delivery with a hydro back in the mid-sixties and I'd see your name in the results all the time. I have always been a Stock Eliminator fan, when I wasn't racing. But, it seemed,you never quit... you were always there. You EARNED my undying respect over many, many years.

Ed Fernandez also has earned my respect by fighting the good fight for years, now, with a weapon of choice that not many would choose. He's going to win a big one, one of these days (He's come mighty close, recently) and I, for one, won't be the slightest bit surprised when he does. He can drive his *** off, when he needs to!

Having said that, I'll just say that when it comes to this red light bidness, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I'll quit ranting about this when somebody, anybody, can demonstrate to me why it's not a fairer, more equitable system than what we've been living with for the last 37 years. I simply don't see any reason NOT to change it...

Keep racing, and pray that some guy with a quicker car doesn't beat you with a worse red light. That may not bother you, but it would irritate the HELL out of me... even to see it happen to you or Ed!

Keep on keepin' on!!!!

KingReptile · 11-04-2010, 02:03 AM

Whats the punchline is this reality next year worst redlight or just someone dreaming this up???

Jeff Lee · 11-04-2010, 02:41 AM

Just dreamers...And when all is right in the rulebook they'll all be racing...sure

KingReptile · 11-04-2010, 03:16 AM

Lol good one Jeff some of these guys should work on a novel at least they could make a profit

bill dedman · 11-04-2010, 03:43 AM

When you're in the final for the money, and your first-to-leave redlight is less than your opponent's, I hope you guys still think this is hilarious when he collects what SHOULD have been your winnings....

11-03-2010, 05:02 PM	#172
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes As Tony said, it ain't gonna happen, may as well give it a rest. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

11-03-2010, 09:13 PM	#175
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes Bill I know you are not going give up. I still race and this is something I could care less about.There are way more important things in drag racing than the first or worse red light. __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

11-04-2010, 01:18 AM	#176
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes Tony, you are one of my all-time heroes. You have been there RACING the whole way. I have nothing but the utmost respect for you. I ran a sedan delivery with a hydro back in the mid-sixties and I'd see your name in the results all the time. I have always been a Stock Eliminator fan, when I wasn't racing. But, it seemed,you never quit... you were always there. You EARNED my undying respect over many, many years. Ed Fernandez also has earned my respect by fighting the good fight for years, now, with a weapon of choice that not many would choose. He's going to win a big one, one of these days (He's come mighty close, recently) and I, for one, won't be the slightest bit surprised when he does. He can drive his *** off, when he needs to! Having said that, I'll just say that when it comes to this red light bidness, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'll quit ranting about this when somebody, anybody, can demonstrate to me why it's not a fairer, more equitable system than what we've been living with for the last 37 years. I simply don't see any reason NOT to change it... Keep racing, and pray that some guy with a quicker car doesn't beat you with a worse red light. That may not bother you, but it would irritate the HELL out of me... even to see it happen to you or Ed! Keep on keepin' on!!!! __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 11-04-2010 at 01:23 AM.

11-04-2010, 02:03 AM	#177
KingReptile Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 257 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes Whats the punchline is this reality next year worst redlight or just someone dreaming this up???

11-04-2010, 02:41 AM	#178
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes Just dreamers...And when all is right in the rulebook they'll all be racing...sure __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

11-04-2010, 03:16 AM	#179
KingReptile Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 257 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes Lol good one Jeff some of these guys should work on a novel at least they could make a profit

11-04-2010, 03:43 AM	#180
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes When you're in the final for the money, and your first-to-leave redlight is less than your opponent's, I hope you guys still think this is hilarious when he collects what SHOULD have been your winnings.... __________________ Bill