link to 2009-2010 camaro with engines - Page 2

greg fulk · 08-01-2008, 02:46 PM

I just talked yesterday with a guy from AMT that did some of the programing on their paint robots & he said thay were painting the new Camaros right now. He also side that the windshield was so short that they had to change the way they programed the sealling robots (the ones that seal the dash & all ther seams) he said this was the frist car that the robots had to open the doors to get inside...he said all other cars they just go tru the windshield opening.

rx dealer · 08-01-2008, 03:13 PM

GM just announced a $ 15.5 BILLION dollar lose. At this rate there will not be a GM to built the camaro !!! Things are very bad and if they build the camaro it will end up just like the SSR and the GTO all the hype when introduced and then fell flat on it's face after 6 months of sales..

formula 409 · 08-01-2008, 06:16 PM

Hey, my buddies Muckstang GT weighs 3900 lbs, it can go 9.80 in eighth mile with Fords 5 speed auto. It's stock stock and has beaten 6.0 ltr GTO;s, Hemi cars aren;t even a good race!

Lynn A McCarty · 08-01-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

Lynn,

I wouldn't get your hopes up! Around here they are closing/merging Buick and Pontiac dealers.

If the market for overpriced and overweight Camaros is small, how tiny is the Firebird market??

Bobby,

I visited the ST Catherines assembly plant in Canada where they built the Camaro/Firebird. They all come out of the same plant, just different fenders interior and trim work. It would add to the success of production, not take away. That plant was capable of 1000 cars a day, and they were only selling about 300-400 a day. Maybe they should make a Saturn, Buick, Cadillac, and Tunnel Port RA-V version, too.

Remember the original LS-1 was the 1969 Pontiac 400 RA-IV, and the LS-2 was the 455HO. Funny how those newer engines more closely follow the Pontiac design.

BobUnkefer · 08-02-2008, 12:25 PM

Lynn,

You mean a new Firebird like this?

http://kevinmorgandesigns.com/km%20all%20concepts.jpg

Stunning looking renditions IMO.

Unk

Jack Matyas · 08-02-2008, 12:42 PM

Unk -- Pretty cool stuff............snazzy in red .

BobUnkefer · 08-02-2008, 04:53 PM

My fave is second from the top, far left..........

Ed Wright · 08-02-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BobUnkefer

Lynn,

You mean a new Firebird like this?

http://kevinmorgandesigns.com/km%20all%20concepts.jpg

Stunning looking renditions IMO.

Unk

Looks better than the Camaro.

Bobby DiDomenico · 08-03-2008, 12:31 PM

Lynn,

The 1969 Camaro and Firebird were probably the best looking models of the entire production run, but this new design appears to be a fat fastback homogination/clongomeration of styling ques that don't look anywhere as good as a Challneger or Mustang.

I agree since the cars would be sharing a lot of components the design/assembly costs for a Camaro/Firebird combination would be lower, I don't see enough Pontiac guys to make the car work. Unless it is way better looking than the Camaro, which then would't hepl the sales volume.

The last 3 new GM cars we have owned had interesting problems, I'll just recap a few:
Brake failure at 1,500 (yes, that's hundred) miles and again, Anti-lock brake system failure at 40,000 miles because the control module was mounted in the wheelwheel and corrosion ate into the interior of it, "Clogged fuel injector at 20,000 miles "becuase we used BP gas and they are not good fo GM cars." ???, Interior filling with water becuase some water dam pad moved in the vent area. ???
And the latest power window failure on a car where the driver doesn't smoke or use toll raods and drivers with the A/C on.
At a time in history when the country has more drivers than ever before, it can't be good when your sales are down each year.

08-01-2008, 02:46 PM	#11
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: link to 2009-2010 camaro with engines I just talked yesterday with a guy from AMT that did some of the programing on their paint robots & he said thay were painting the new Camaros right now. He also side that the windshield was so short that they had to change the way they programed the sealling robots (the ones that seal the dash & all ther seams) he said this was the frist car that the robots had to open the doors to get inside...he said all other cars they just go tru the windshield opening. __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

08-01-2008, 03:13 PM	#12
rx dealer Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lake Orion, Michigan Posts: 337 Likes: 12 Liked 53 Times in 13 Posts	Re: link to 2009-2010 camaro with engines GM just announced a $ 15.5 BILLION dollar lose. At this rate there will not be a GM to built the camaro !!! Things are very bad and if they build the camaro it will end up just like the SSR and the GTO all the hype when introduced and then fell flat on it's face after 6 months of sales..

08-01-2008, 06:16 PM	#13
formula 409 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: link to 2009-2010 camaro with engines Hey, my buddies Muckstang GT weighs 3900 lbs, it can go 9.80 in eighth mile with Fords 5 speed auto. It's stock stock and has beaten 6.0 ltr GTO;s, Hemi cars aren;t even a good race!

08-02-2008, 12:25 PM	#15
BobUnkefer Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 465 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: link to 2009-2010 camaro with engines Lynn, You mean a new Firebird like this? http://kevinmorgandesigns.com/km%20all%20concepts.jpg Stunning looking renditions IMO. Unk

08-02-2008, 12:42 PM	#16
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,927 Likes: 406 Liked 2,050 Times in 398 Posts	Re: link to 2009-2010 camaro with engines Unk -- Pretty cool stuff............snazzy in red . __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

08-02-2008, 04:53 PM	#17
BobUnkefer Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 465 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: link to 2009-2010 camaro with engines My fave is second from the top, far left..........

08-03-2008, 12:31 PM	#19
Bobby DiDomenico Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 923 Likes: 101 Liked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Re: link to 2009-2010 camaro with engines Lynn, The 1969 Camaro and Firebird were probably the best looking models of the entire production run, but this new design appears to be a fat fastback homogination/clongomeration of styling ques that don't look anywhere as good as a Challneger or Mustang. I agree since the cars would be sharing a lot of components the design/assembly costs for a Camaro/Firebird combination would be lower, I don't see enough Pontiac guys to make the car work. Unless it is way better looking than the Camaro, which then would't hepl the sales volume. The last 3 new GM cars we have owned had interesting problems, I'll just recap a few: Brake failure at 1,500 (yes, that's hundred) miles and again, Anti-lock brake system failure at 40,000 miles because the control module was mounted in the wheelwheel and corrosion ate into the interior of it, "Clogged fuel injector at 20,000 miles "becuase we used BP gas and they are not good fo GM cars." ???, Interior filling with water becuase some water dam pad moved in the vent area. ??? And the latest power window failure on a car where the driver doesn't smoke or use toll raods and drivers with the A/C on. At a time in history when the country has more drivers than ever before, it can't be good when your sales are down each year.