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Old 09-22-2009, 11:38 PM   #11
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i'm all for not having to see the other guys green bulb as my tree comes down.
Blinders on the tree will cure that real quick !!! Problem solved !!!
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:32 AM   #12
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Default Re: Frequency of double redlights

The frequency of double red data is not really valid since in cases where the fast guy has already seen the opponents red, he/she will most likely take a good stab at the tree for practice and occasionally go red in the process. The only double red data that really counts would be where there wasn't much difference in dial ins.
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:55 PM   #13
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Faul and Beard, that cause you guys are professionals and don't get red lights like the weaker of us drivers.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:30 PM   #14
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Default Re: Frequency of double redlights

I don't race as often as some people,but I went into my logbook for 2009 and tried to get some stats.I have competed in 24 rounds of racing this year.On (3) occasions,my opponent redlighted,and on (1) occasion,I redlighted.NONE were double redlights.
It would be interesting to hear some stats from other racers,but my data says that this issue is nothing to get all worked up over like some seem to be.If the rule was changed or left alone,it really wouldn't make a huge difference in my opinion.
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Old 09-24-2009, 07:02 PM   #15
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Default Re: Frequency of double redlights

I race a slow F150 at my local track quite a bit, and it happens to me about 2-3 times a year looking back at it. In stock, I cannot remember it happening to me, but i have only run a handful of times in stock in my career.

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Old 09-24-2009, 08:29 PM   #16
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Exclamation Re: Frequency of double redlights

Statistics as they are available really don't tell the real story unless they are from trees that at totally blind. Two examples:
1. Fast car sees the slow cars red light and backs off and waits for the green.
2. Fast car sees the slow car red light and leaves early not even trying to cut a good light.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:10 PM   #17
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Default Re: Frequency of double redlights

Really if your concentrating on your side you shouldn't be able to see what happenes in the other lane. This past weekend I had 4 reds against me and I never seen it once...the only way I knew is when the car settles down in second gear my win light is already on. Some times luck falls my way...not too often though. My 2 cents...
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:51 AM   #18
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Default Re: Frequency of double redlights

Ya think that's bad? At least three different times at Pageland Dragway, I've been driving the stripe or dumping the other guy... and then realize that he was red. Oops!
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:25 AM   #19
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Default Re: Frequency of double redlights

happened three times to me in last three seasons in probably 200 rounds of competition in both Box and No Box type racing.

I think blocking the red or having it delayed would be OK. We need something NEW to interest more people. What happens when all of us OLD GEEZERS have to use our energy to go cash the Social Security checks.

Why not a Pro-Tree like AHRA used to do. turn off the pre-stage light. .3 Pro-Tree, EVERYONE was late. That was some interesting racing. I know, not many of you remember that.
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:42 AM   #20
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Why not a Pro-Tree like AHRA used to do. turn off the pre-stage light. .3 Pro-Tree, EVERYONE was late. That was some interesting racing. I know, not many of you remember that.
My local track was running AHRA with that system when I started racing. I had pretty quick physical reactions, so I was able to do pretty well.

As far as double redlights, I have experienced 3 of them this season, out of roughly 40 eliminations rounds. One was in my tow rig (I was the slower car), and my redlight was a lot closer to green. In my S/G car racing non-electronics brackets, I am usually the quicker car. I was the beneficiary of a slower car's double red-light earlier this year (mine by 0.002 to his 0.031), but at the ET finals I was slightly slower and red-lit (another -0.002), while the other guy red-lit by 0.045, but he crossed the centerline and lost anyway. I'll bet I average 2 double redlights a season since I started racing regularly again in 2007, and this year is the first that I've been the faster car on a regular basis.

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