Another cool stocker! - Page 2

Tom Goldman · 11-20-2009, 05:39 PM

383 2x4 was 343hp now 330 hp .......I'd love to build one of these cars, I had a '62 Dodge wagon back in '72 with a 343hp motor,and it flew. .....Of course I got all the good hand me down parts from my Uncle when he got the latest trick cam from Lunati ,or a new converter from Turbo-action!.........Good bodies are really scarce in the North East. ......A good friend of mine, Mike Wiley actually made a nice 4 door car into a 2-door post body ! .........One of the Mopar mags did a feature on it a few years back. ...........Unless you saw the photos of it being done , you'd never believe it! ..............Tom

Ron Middleton · 11-20-2009, 05:46 PM

Wish I could locate my old '62 wagon superstocker we ran back in the late 70's. Haven't seen the car since 1979 but would syre love to have it back.

Travis Miller · 11-20-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller

This is a nice piece,and a welcome departure from the norm. Does anybody know what engine combo it has in it?

Checking the NHRA Classguide shows that in order to run B/SA, the car would be using one of the 413 max wedge engine. Both the 410 and the 420 horse engines have a natural class of A. The 383-343 engine is a natural E with the Fury 2dr hdtp body.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Bob Pagano · 11-21-2009, 09:37 AM

Its a 413 crossram. Dwight is right

PONTIAC'S REVENGE · 11-22-2009, 03:57 PM

CAR 54 WERE ARRRRRE YOUUUUU...OOH! OOH!

guess im showin my age

stacy
gtaa

bill dedman · 11-22-2009, 05:23 PM

It's indeed, a 383 with 2-fours on top; a solid lifter motor with .445/.445 lift at the valve, and a de-factored NHRA "Stock" HP rating of 320; just 6 more than a '71 Duster 340, which has a single 4bbl, hydraulic lifter, motor.

Somebody (Messr.'s Bennett and Widuch) did their homework!!!

LOL!

I think this may be the motor -type that was in a notorious MoPar station wagon back in the '70s or '80s, called "THE BEHEMOTH." Could be wrong about that...

I also seem to remember that it was never an assembly-line option; just an NHRA-legal "dealer-installed-option" from years and years, ago...

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this could have been the original "paper car" engine.

bill dedman · 11-22-2009, 05:30 PM

The Bennett/Widuch car runs D/SA.

No way to get a '62 Plymouth 2-door sedan into D with any of the available 413's.

It's a 383, with inline 4bbls.

X-TECH MAN · 11-22-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman

It's indeed, a 383 with 2-fours on top; a solid lifter motor with .445/.445 lift at the valve, and a de-factored NHRA "Stock" HP rating of 320; just 6 more than a '71 Duster 340, which has a single 4bbl, hydraulic lifter, motor.

Somebody (Messr.'s Bennett and Widuch) did their homework!!!

LOL!

I think this may be the motor -type that was in a notorious MoPar station wagon back in the '70s or '80s, called "THE BEHEMOTH." Could be wrong about that...

I also seem to remember that it was never an assembly-line option; just an NHRA-legal "dealer-installed-option" from years and years, ago...

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this could have been the original "paper car" engine.

It was originally a POLICE CAR engine option in 62.

bill dedman · 11-22-2009, 07:32 PM

Never heard that one...

I learn something every day!!!

Thanks, Terry.

X-TECH MAN · 11-22-2009, 09:13 PM

I remember when I was in High School the police Dept in the area (Seat Pleasant, Md.) had 2 of them. A 4 door and a 2 door sedan Plymouth Savoy. We thought they were the uglist cars we ever saw.....lol. Both were black all over and the slant six cylinder 4 door cars were black and white. Several of the guys I ran with were friends with some of the guys on the force and we got to look under the hoods of the two 383 cars. Man those 2 X 4 barrels looked so cool to guys who had just gotten their liscense only a few months before and were driving cars you wouldnt want to be caught dead in today.....lol. The 6 cyls were the town cars and the 2 383 cars were the hi way cars.
A guy name Al Procopio who lived near my school had the first 1962 413 Xram car I ever saw but it was a track only SS/SA car. His company built Cecil County drag strip, Capitol raceway, and Aquasco speed way. They made quite an impression on young minds back then.

11-20-2009, 05:39 PM	#11
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,477 Likes: 892 Liked 883 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! 383 2x4 was 343hp now 330 hp .......I'd love to build one of these cars, I had a '62 Dodge wagon back in '72 with a 343hp motor,and it flew. .....Of course I got all the good hand me down parts from my Uncle when he got the latest trick cam from Lunati ,or a new converter from Turbo-action!.........Good bodies are really scarce in the North East. ......A good friend of mine, Mike Wiley actually made a nice 4 door car into a 2-door post body ! .........One of the Mopar mags did a feature on it a few years back. ...........Unless you saw the photos of it being done , you'd never believe it! ..............Tom __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

11-20-2009, 05:46 PM	#12
Ron Middleton Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Jackson, Ms. Posts: 350 Likes: 183 Liked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! Wish I could locate my old '62 wagon superstocker we ran back in the late 70's. Haven't seen the car since 1979 but would syre love to have it back. __________________ #4892 J/SA. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.” - Aristotle

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Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 241 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! Its a 413 crossram. Dwight is right __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

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bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! It's indeed, a 383 with 2-fours on top; a solid lifter motor with .445/.445 lift at the valve, and a de-factored NHRA "Stock" HP rating of 320; just 6 more than a '71 Duster 340, which has a single 4bbl, hydraulic lifter, motor. Somebody (Messr.'s Bennett and Widuch) did their homework!!! LOL! I think this may be the motor -type that was in a notorious MoPar station wagon back in the '70s or '80s, called "THE BEHEMOTH." Could be wrong about that... I also seem to remember that it was never an assembly-line option; just an NHRA-legal "dealer-installed-option" from years and years, ago... Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this could have been the original "paper car" engine. __________________ Bill

11-22-2009, 05:30 PM	#17
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! The Bennett/Widuch car runs D/SA. No way to get a '62 Plymouth 2-door sedan into D with any of the available 413's. It's a 383, with inline 4bbls. __________________ Bill

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bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! Never heard that one... I learn something every day!!! Thanks, Terry. __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 11-22-2009 at 11:23 PM.

11-22-2009, 09:13 PM	#20
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! I remember when I was in High School the police Dept in the area (Seat Pleasant, Md.) had 2 of them. A 4 door and a 2 door sedan Plymouth Savoy. We thought they were the uglist cars we ever saw.....lol. Both were black all over and the slant six cylinder 4 door cars were black and white. Several of the guys I ran with were friends with some of the guys on the force and we got to look under the hoods of the two 383 cars. Man those 2 X 4 barrels looked so cool to guys who had just gotten their liscense only a few months before and were driving cars you wouldnt want to be caught dead in today.....lol. The 6 cyls were the town cars and the 2 383 cars were the hi way cars. A guy name Al Procopio who lived near my school had the first 1962 413 Xram car I ever saw but it was a track only SS/SA car. His company built Cecil County drag strip, Capitol raceway, and Aquasco speed way. They made quite an impression on young minds back then. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 11-22-2009 at 09:41 PM.