Question to Ford, CJ Owners and supporters - Page 2

Phillip marvetz · 09-12-2010, 01:55 PM

Maybe we should just all go race PT Cruisers for a few years until the CJ's and DP's have there factors corrected.
I think we will be seeing alot more B/SA cars next year.....................

Jeff Lee · 09-12-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff

Sure looks like know one wants to answer this question.What the deal?

If I were looking at building a top of the line A-B-C Stocker and no CJ/DP, I would look at a $75K budget. Sure it could be done cheaper but a popular body (Camaro, Mustang, Mopar) can cost a minimum of $10K as a buy in and then you have your restoration cost. Personally, I would buy a new body from Dynacorn, even with their fitment issues. That's $15K right there.

Dgal · 09-12-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Sean, how much do you think it will cost building a competitive AA, A, B or C Stocker that is not a CJ or DP?

A competitive car for the higher classes, built from scratch in today's dollars, can cost almost as much as a CJ or DP by the time you are done with building the car and doing all the R&D.

The problem is that it is not competitive against a Cobra Jet or Drag Pak even if you spent twice the amount. The Cobra Jets and Drag Paks start out with significant advantages that any other combination cannot overcome without larger runner volumes, larger throttle bodies, larger valves, greater lobe lift, and or power adders. Plus the deep pocket R&D of the manufacturer.

art leong · 09-12-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

If I were looking at building a top of the line A-B-C Stocker and no CJ/DP, I would look at a $75K budget. Sure it could be done cheaper but a popular body (Camaro, Mustang, Mopar) can cost a minimum of $10K as a buy in and then you have your restoration cost. Personally, I would buy a new body from Dynacorn, even with their fitment issues. That's $15K right there.

Jeff you would be buying a car. That was never on a showroom floor. And doesen't have a vin# for the year/model claimed.
According to some on here you shouldn't be allowed to run it.
Oops, Nevermind, it's a GM

art leong · 09-12-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

Maybe we should just all go race PT Cruisers for a few years until the CJ's and DP's have there factors corrected.
I think we will be seeing alot more B/SA cars next year.....................

Why don't you build a Neon for SS like me.

RULER · 09-12-2010, 10:40 PM

OK, sense the supporters of these cars keep coming back to say it's time to purchase these new cars, lets take a look at that idea. Lets say there are about 1,000 stock racers in north america and all the sudden half of them fall into a bucket of money and can buy one, well now we have another problem. There aren't enough cars and parts produced to build some of them, now that is why they are limited production and should be in super stock period.

Phillip marvetz · 09-12-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by art leong

Why don't you build a Neon for SS like me.

But I already have a 1988 Shadow and a 1993 Eagle Talon waiting in the back yard, LOL.
I do plan on asking you for some advice in the near future though...

Sean Kennedy · 09-13-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewart Way

My opinion. There is NO asterisk by John Calverts win at the Winternats. Why should there be. He has done it before and he will do it again. CJ, Dragpak or the Ole Stang. The factors are wrong, but to think that people build cars for the joy of qualifying low or not at all, or that they don't pick cars with an advantage is also wrong. Granted, some advantages are larger than others. How does Voth feel pulling his Monte up beside a Cobalt for class. Wonder if Cobalts should have an asterisk too? No.
Again, the factors are wrong but NO asterisk is by wins of these cars because they are LEGAL if built to the rules.
Just because you don't like the way things are doesn't put an asterisk anywhere.
Every winner has an advantage or every race would be a dead heat.

John calvert winning the Sunday eliminator (read: bracket race) definitely should not have asterisk. Any heads up wins or lcass wins on the other hand.....

Not one person has given a serious attempt at answering this question, because they know I'm right.

Jim Carter · 09-13-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RULER

OK, sense the supporters of these cars keep coming back to say it's time to purchase these new cars, lets take a look at that idea. Lets say there are about 1,000 stock racers in north america and all the sudden half of them fall into a bucket of money and can buy one, well now we have another problem. There aren't enough cars and parts produced to build some of them, now that is why they are limited production and should be in super stock period.

How many people are gonna or want to pay to watch a yard full of just Mustangs and Challenger go down the track? Maybe Ford will come up with another paper tiger like a 428 powered pick ups/suvs that can fit into the H through T stock classes. Hey now you're talking!!
Oh yeah, sell 'em on Monday!!
Until they find out they can't actually buy one to drive on the street.
What a bunch of malarkey.

JC

SSDiv6 · 09-13-2010, 04:49 PM

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