Superstock A Body oil pans? - Page 2

Jim Storms · 10-08-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

We could not get a Dakota on my 70 Duster. I think some of the a bodies moved the steering stuff, we use a Moroso 8 quart that we shortened 1" fits in front of the steering, and is even with the x member for the occasional wheel stand. I can tell you, the dakota pan with a couple quarts out is worth a tenth. Won't hurt nothing.

Jeff, i believe on the A bodies you have to finess the draglink, i have a Dakota on my Cuda and it works great, going to try one with the SS motor and see how it works.

Steve Hayward · 02-06-2012, 10:19 PM

So what do I need to do to use a Dakota pan in my 69 Dart??? Is it better than my center sump Moroso????

jmcarter · 02-07-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Hayward

So what do I need to do to use a Dakota pan in my 69 Dart??? Is it better than my center sump Moroso????

See Jeff's note, don't believe there is that much difference between a 70 Duster and a 69 Dart relative to where the draglink goes but could be wrong....can you measure between the rear seal and back of the draglink and one of use could tell you how much "finess" you might need to perform. Is it on a stocker or such that you don't want to go to a steering rack? If not that's the direction you might consider, simplifies everything.

Todd Boyer · 02-07-2012, 06:50 PM

I was told in a small block A-body to use the Dakota pan and the old style biscuit mount K-member. The motor mounts must be switched to the front of the ears on the block. This moves the engine back about 1 1/2 inches and gives clearance for the Dak pan. Also, I was told to use the '73 - '76 A-body steering linkage with the center link tweaked a skosh so as to clear the pan. I haven't tried this yet, but it makes sense to me.

Steve Hayward · 02-07-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

See Jeff's note, don't believe there is that much difference between a 70 Duster and a 69 Dart relative to where the draglink goes but could be wrong....can you measure between the rear seal and back of the draglink and one of use could tell you how much "finess" you might need to perform. Is it on a stocker or such that you don't want to go to a steering rack? If not that's the direction you might consider, simplifies everything.

I don't want to go to a rack ...... (Can I?? in SS) It measures out now and looks like it will fit...... But I hear they can really restrict the turning radius.....

I already have the Dakota pan..... and I have a 10" deep center sump Moroso pan....

Which one to pick?????

George Mirza · 02-07-2012, 09:13 PM

Todd you are close, but you need the early centerlink, pitman arm and idler arm (72 or older), with the motor back as far as you can get it. Then everything needs to be bent down about and inch.
One problem is the Dakota pan won't fit on a 318 or 340 without modifing the rear main cap where the back of the pan seals. All the Dakota pans use the small radius seal on the back. The pre '91 LA motors (except 360's) use the large radius oil pan seal. I think the '91 up rear main cap will fit the older motors, but this needs to be changed before the motor is line bored.
It's a great little oil pan when you get it to fit. I'm still working on it.
George

Todd Boyer · 02-07-2012, 09:59 PM

Hey George, so are there any late steering parts that are needed? Tie rods and sleeves ??? Lower ball joints/steering arms ???

George Mirza · 02-08-2012, 08:50 PM

Todd,
From the centerlink out either old or new will work, but you need the early centerlink and arms. The early one sits on the top of the arms, nuts facing up, the later one the nuts face down centerlink sits under the arms. If you have them next to each other you can easily tell the difference.
George

Steve Hayward · 02-08-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by George Mirza

Todd,
From the centerlink out either old or new will work, but you need the early centerlink and arms. The early one sits on the top of the arms, nuts facing up, the later one the nuts face down centerlink sits under the arms. If you have them next to each other you can easily tell the difference.
George

Would the later center link not sit down lower on the 73 design?

older racer · 02-09-2012, 12:06 AM

hi, question, where do you buy or find center links? early or late model style?

02-06-2012, 10:19 PM	#12
Steve Hayward Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 39 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superstock A Body oil pans? So what do I need to do to use a Dakota pan in my 69 Dart??? Is it better than my center sump Moroso????

02-07-2012, 06:50 PM	#14
Todd Boyer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Saint John NB Canada Posts: 561 Likes: 30 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Superstock A Body oil pans? I was told in a small block A-body to use the Dakota pan and the old style biscuit mount K-member. The motor mounts must be switched to the front of the ears on the block. This moves the engine back about 1 1/2 inches and gives clearance for the Dak pan. Also, I was told to use the '73 - '76 A-body steering linkage with the center link tweaked a skosh so as to clear the pan. I haven't tried this yet, but it makes sense to me.

02-07-2012, 09:13 PM	#16
George Mirza Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North Attleborough Ma. Posts: 522 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superstock A Body oil pans? Todd you are close, but you need the early centerlink, pitman arm and idler arm (72 or older), with the motor back as far as you can get it. Then everything needs to be bent down about and inch. One problem is the Dakota pan won't fit on a 318 or 340 without modifing the rear main cap where the back of the pan seals. All the Dakota pans use the small radius seal on the back. The pre '91 LA motors (except 360's) use the large radius oil pan seal. I think the '91 up rear main cap will fit the older motors, but this needs to be changed before the motor is line bored. It's a great little oil pan when you get it to fit. I'm still working on it. George

02-07-2012, 09:59 PM	#17
Todd Boyer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Saint John NB Canada Posts: 561 Likes: 30 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Superstock A Body oil pans? Hey George, so are there any late steering parts that are needed? Tie rods and sleeves ??? Lower ball joints/steering arms ???

02-08-2012, 08:50 PM	#18
George Mirza Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North Attleborough Ma. Posts: 522 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superstock A Body oil pans? Todd, From the centerlink out either old or new will work, but you need the early centerlink and arms. The early one sits on the top of the arms, nuts facing up, the later one the nuts face down centerlink sits under the arms. If you have them next to each other you can easily tell the difference. George

02-09-2012, 12:06 AM	#20
older racer Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 212 Likes: 13 Liked 68 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Superstock A Body oil pans? hi, question, where do you buy or find center links? early or late model style?