Manual trans only in 83 Mustang? - Page 2

RPM5595 · 09-24-2018, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Why is requiring the only style of transmission a certain combination was available with "A Bummer"? I like that NHRA tries to at least keep some things legit. Not sure about 83, but you COULD get a 84 or 85 Mustang 5.0 engine with an automatic, but only with the CFI throttle body EFI version. All the carbed 82 thru 85 5.0 HO Mustang and Capri models were manual transmission only.

Only because that will prevent him from being able to convert the car to a Stocker. And with so many other stupid pointless rules in Stock Eliminator what would it hurt? Did these engines ever come with roller rocker arms? How about Edelbrock aluminum heads?

RPM5595 · 09-24-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter

Jay. Bill Dyer has run a couple 85 GT 302 Stick combos in stock and superstock. The GT is a stick only and is a good combo. He won the overall class national championship with one a few years ago. It will go a second under. It is easy on parts if built right. You might talk to Bill. He might sell a roller if you have a person stuck in automatic. I don’t think it is too hard to change years to find a combo that could be run.

Hi Jim, the 85 is definitely a better combination. I am just trying to help him get into Stock as and be able to index as cheaply as possible. He has a 83 Bracket car that could easily be transformed but he won't run a stick. We'll figure something out. I'd like to get him into the 87 up. I used to know a thing or two about making those run pretty good.

X-TECH MAN · 09-24-2018, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rpm5595

only because that will prevent him from being able to convert the car to a stocker. And with so many other stupid pointless rules in stock eliminator what would it hurt? Did these engines ever come with roller rocker arms? How about edelbrock aluminum heads?

ouch ! Lol.

Rod Greene · 09-24-2018, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RPM5595

Hi Jim, the 85 is definitely a better combination. I am just trying to help him get into Stock as and be able to index as cheaply as possible. He has a 83 Bracket car that could easily be transformed but he won't run a stick. We'll figure something out. I'd like to get him into the 87 up. I used to know a thing or two about making those run pretty good.

Tell him to grow a pair and run a stick or turn in his man card. So many sheep out there.

Tom Moock · 09-24-2018, 04:38 PM

Call, Marty Buth have him build you 4 cylinder turbo, you run Auto transmission, will run farther under index than 302

RPM5595 · 09-24-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod Greene

Tell him to grow a pair and run a stick or turn in his man card. So many sheep out there.

Ha! Not about growing a pair. It's not in the budget.

RPM5595 · 09-24-2018, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Moock

Call, Marty Buth have him build you 4 cylinder turbo, you run Auto transmission, will run farther under index than 302

Welll, I am an engine builder so that would be awkward. lol. We actually talked about the 4 cyl combination but he is a V8 guy.

ALMACK · 09-25-2018, 08:38 AM

If he is dead set on running an automatic, why not change the front nose piece on his 83 to a 85-86 and run as '86 EFI 302 factored @ 197 hp ?
The hood and interior is the same. Not sure about the tailights tho.

Or....run as 1984 302 /auto CFI efi combo factored @ 195 hp ?

If he wants to run a carbed, automatic 302 Fox body then he's just sol

Stephen & Horace Johnson · 09-25-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK

If he is dead set on running an automatic, why not change the front nose piece on his 83 to a 85-86 and run as '86 EFI 302 factored @ 197 hp ?
The hood and interior is the same. Not sure about the tailights tho.

Or....run as 1984 302 /auto CFI efi combo factored @ 195 hp ?

If he wants to run a carbed, automatic 302 Fox body then he's just sol

taillights are identical...the hood is not. 83 has a scoop the 84-86 are flat

RPM5595 · 09-25-2018, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK

If he is dead set on running an automatic, why not change the front nose piece on his 83 to a 85-86 and run as '86 EFI 302 factored @ 197 hp ?
The hood and interior is the same. Not sure about the tailights tho.

Or....run as 1984 302 /auto CFI efi combo factored @ 195 hp ?

If he wants to run a carbed, automatic 302 Fox body then he's just sol

Thought about the 86 combo but if he is going to run EFI he might as well convert to 87 up like I used to run. Much better engine. I can't imagine the 84 CFI would even be close to usable, would it?
We were talking and he does happen to have a 88 T Bird..........

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ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,935 Likes: 129 Liked 369 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Manual trans only in 83 Mustang? If he is dead set on running an automatic, why not change the front nose piece on his 83 to a 85-86 and run as '86 EFI 302 factored @ 197 hp ? The hood and interior is the same. Not sure about the tailights tho. Or....run as 1984 302 /auto CFI efi combo factored @ 195 hp ? If he wants to run a carbed, automatic 302 Fox body then he's just sol Last edited by ALMACK; 09-25-2018 at 08:42 AM.