worst red light debate, again!

[Ed Wright]

Lmao!

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Thanks Jeff,you just couldn't leave well enough alone.Here goes 75 more pages of whale blubber.
Kenny,need any help with the paperwork for all the new sponsors coming on board?

Ed F.,
What do you call it when you fail to answer simple. direct, sometimes yes-or-no question that relates to the thread subject?

Cowardice? That would be good for a start.

Obfuscation?

Nope'; too many syllables for your "superior," Joisey edumucation...

Rudeness?

Nope that isn't even in your limited vocabulary...

Ignorance? Yep... now, we/re getting somewhere!!!

Psyco-babble that is ego-driven?

Maybe, but it's got more facets than that...

Just plain don't know the answer, and trying desperately to defray attention from that faact, , so that maybe, just MAYBE, no one will notice!!!

The burning question, one last time:

How is a rule that treats 2 competitors differently a fair one?

Competitor 1 gets red light jeopardy EVERY time he faces the tree when running a quicker car.

Competitor 2 only faces it when his compettiton in the slower car, goes green.

Tell me, Ed F., what is the reason that anyone could think that's equal treatment under the rules? And, if it's equal not treatment (it's not) what makes it "fair" and not worthy of changing.

I don't expect you to answer this because, that's what you do; you write pages of insults and "cute" put-downs in hopes that no one will notice that you couldn't/wouldn't answer the question, BECAUSE to answer it, would reveal that you have NEVER had a real understanding of the problem at hand.

You're position is intellectually bankrupt.

Now, prove me wrong and answer the 2-part question. Please...

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Ed F.,
What do you call it when you fail to answer simple. direct, sometimes yes-or-no question that relates to the thread subject?

Cowardice? That would be good for a start.

Obfuscation?

Nope'; too many syllabiles for your "superior," Joisey edumucation...

Rudeness?

Nope that isn't even in your limited vocabulary...

Ignorance? Yep... now, we/re getting somewhere!!!

Psyco-babble that is ego-driven?

Maybe, but it's got more facets than that...

Just plain don't know the answer, and trying desperately to defray attention from that faact, , so that maybe, just MAYBE, no one will notice!!!

The burning question, one last time:

How is a rule that treats 2 competitors differently a fair one?

Competitor 1 gets red light jeopardy EVERY time he faces the tree when running a quicker car.

Competitor 2 only faces it when his compettiton in the slower car, goes green.

Tell me, Ed F., what is the reason that anyone could think that's equal treatment under the rules? And, if it's equal not treatment (it's not) what makes it "fair" and not worthy of changing.

I don't expect you to answer this because, that's what you do; you write pages of insults and "cute" put-downs in hopes that no one will notice that you couldn't/wouldn't answer the question, BECAUSE to answer it, would reveal that you have NEVER had a real understanding of the problem at hand.

You're position is intellectually bankrupt.

Now, prove me wrong and answer the 2-part question. Please...

You've convinced me that you're totally nuts.This has to be an act.Bill,which one are you??

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You've convinced me that you're totally nuts.This has to be an act.Bill,which one are you??

Doctor Fernandez,
This thought just came into my head today.
What if Doctor Dedman succeeded with getting this rule change?
Would you be pi$$ed at him? Extremely pi$$ed?
If so, why?
Just curious about your thought process . I know about the guys with the AA, A, B cars

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Doctor Fernandez,
This thought just came into my head today.
What if Doctor Dedman succeeded with getting this rule change?
Would you be pi$$ed at him? Extremely pi$$ed?
If so, why?
Just curious about your thought process . I know about the guys with the AA, A, B cars

Mark,I'll discuss that with you at Englishtown.Okee dokey?

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Doctor Fernandez,
This thought just came into my head today.
What if Doctor Dedman succeeded with getting this rule change?
Would you be pi$$ed at him? Extremely pi$$ed?
If so, why?
Just curious about your thought process . I know about the guys with the AA, A, B cars

Most don't care one way or the other. But, he ain't gonna get it done here.

[Bobby Zlatkin]

I try to stay out of this but I can't.
Not only do I think a first red light loss is unfair, but I think (off subject here) not allowing deep staging is not fair. Forces the slower car to leave sooner (on the tree) than the faster car. Why should'n they both get to leave at, reasonably, the same time (adjusted by tire size and pressure). Why should the slower car have to shoot at the bulls eye from further back behind the line? Is that fair?
I'm done. For now.

[Chuck Beach]

Nothing is fair in life or racing ..... deal with it ..

[Bobby Zlatkin]

That's what I'm trying to do, although I realize this is not the place that will get anything done.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin

I try to stay out of this but I can't.
Not only do I think a first red light loss is unfair, but I think (off subject here) not allowing deep staging is not fair. Forces the slower car to leave sooner (on the tree) than the faster car. Why should'n they both get to leave at, reasonably, the same time (adjusted by tire size and pressure). Why should the slower car have to shoot at the bulls eye from further back behind the line? Is that fair?
I'm done. For now.

Bobby, Someone asked us , a few weeks back , why S/SS racers can't get together.
It seems obvious to me.
Most seem to only be concerned about rules and procedures that will benefit THEM, or ones that take away something that could help someone else win a round or two, .......rather than what's good for the sport in general.