NHRA Fastest 128 cars - Page 3

Dick Butler · 07-11-2008, 03:35 PM

Tom, I agree. If the idea is to get AHFS thats one thing but to desert Class racing as a goal is wrong. With Eliminator it is like a total move to Bracket racing. Only one person wins not based necessarily on performance unless there were heads up runs. They may just have luck of the draw and dial and braking.
With Class racing there are Lots of winners based on BEATING someone with driving and tuning skills. There is a winner for each where there are competitors over 2 or 3. Thats a performance eliminator..
Too much down side to this move...... another step towards Bracket racing as the only thing done at NHRA events by expensive Stock and SS cars.
It should work the opposite way. Class Winner only gets in with byes and #1 qual if not winner of a class.
Then the goal would REALLY be performance within your class with resulting reward of running Eliminator PLUS a Class Trophy YOU WON>
If too many low entry classes is their issue CONSOLIDATE to 1/4 the classes. That will fill up ALL classes

Bruce Noland · 07-11-2008, 04:16 PM

Wally caring about stock class racers is a myth. Wally cared about dough - long green came first. Racers were complaining about his cheap "beehind" 30 years ago!

Dick,
Fire up your Stocker yet?

Jack Matyas · 07-11-2008, 07:24 PM

Bruce/1664SSJA -- I first met Wally in 1975 and spoke with him several more times before he passed and I never once got the impression he cared even the slightest bit about money .I did however see that he loved racing much more than you guys ever will .You've got it all wrong about him..........shame on both of you even thinking Wally was all about the almighty buck.................

John Warehime · 07-11-2008, 07:56 PM

Hey Kenny, isn't every part on your car available to anyone who wants to buy them? If someone really wanted to build a car like yours couldn't they find a body and build a GT500 just like yours? The rules apply to everybody. If it's that big of an advantage, build one. I just wish I had thought of it first. DANG!! LOL!!

TOM KASCH · 07-11-2008, 07:56 PM

I f Wally did not care about lower class racers then why did he put more and more classes into NHRA racing in the 60's & even the 70's. I think he wanted as many classes as could be, BUT maybe not everyone at NHRA thought that way.As what happen to Modified....
now it's going to happen to stock soon,as they will 1st put stock into ss, why else would you be able to run heads & blocks for Mopar & Gm that are being made right now,not what came on the cars like before..
it's going to happen , less class tear down,no class trophys .not much cost to have 1 elim. and still not much of a pay-out .

John Warehime · 07-11-2008, 08:01 PM

Wally is dead. Let's look to the future.

Ken Miele · 07-11-2008, 08:25 PM

Jack, I couldn't agree with you more, lets race. Mr Warehime you are correct, the only advantage I have is very few wish to build one.

Jim Wahl · 07-11-2008, 10:37 PM

Mr. Kasch is correct! You guys who have been racing only a few years and think you know it all couldn't be farther from being right. You are giving NHRA a ticket to eliminate class racing. If you win class at an event, no matter how, you deserve to be in the show! If NHRA doesn't run class at an event they save $100 per class for the cost of the trophy. See where this is going? Sportsman, Pro and Super Pro ET.Jim

Larry Hill · 07-11-2008, 10:56 PM

Kenny, if you take all the Santa Clause stuff out of your car your point of view might change.

Ken Miele · 07-11-2008, 11:17 PM

Larry, thats because I have been good. Santa always knows who has been naughty or nice. The question is, have you been naughty or nice? I think its obvious.

07-11-2008, 03:35 PM	#21
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Tom, I agree. If the idea is to get AHFS thats one thing but to desert Class racing as a goal is wrong. With Eliminator it is like a total move to Bracket racing. Only one person wins not based necessarily on performance unless there were heads up runs. They may just have luck of the draw and dial and braking. With Class racing there are Lots of winners based on BEATING someone with driving and tuning skills. There is a winner for each where there are competitors over 2 or 3. Thats a performance eliminator.. Too much down side to this move...... another step towards Bracket racing as the only thing done at NHRA events by expensive Stock and SS cars. It should work the opposite way. Class Winner only gets in with byes and #1 qual if not winner of a class. Then the goal would REALLY be performance within your class with resulting reward of running Eliminator PLUS a Class Trophy YOU WON> If too many low entry classes is their issue CONSOLIDATE to 1/4 the classes. That will fill up ALL classes

07-11-2008, 04:16 PM	#22
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Wally caring about stock class racers is a myth. Wally cared about dough - long green came first. Racers were complaining about his cheap "beehind" 30 years ago! Dick, Fire up your Stocker yet? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

07-11-2008, 07:24 PM	#23
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,927 Likes: 406 Liked 2,050 Times in 398 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Bruce/1664SSJA -- I first met Wally in 1975 and spoke with him several more times before he passed and I never once got the impression he cared even the slightest bit about money .I did however see that he loved racing much more than you guys ever will .You've got it all wrong about him..........shame on both of you even thinking Wally was all about the almighty buck................. __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

07-11-2008, 07:56 PM	#24
John Warehime Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 291 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Hey Kenny, isn't every part on your car available to anyone who wants to buy them? If someone really wanted to build a car like yours couldn't they find a body and build a GT500 just like yours? The rules apply to everybody. If it's that big of an advantage, build one. I just wish I had thought of it first. DANG!! LOL!!

07-11-2008, 07:56 PM	#25
TOM KASCH VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TOLEDO,OHIO Posts: 1,735 Likes: 0 Liked 241 Times in 100 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars I f Wally did not care about lower class racers then why did he put more and more classes into NHRA racing in the 60's & even the 70's. I think he wanted as many classes as could be, BUT maybe not everyone at NHRA thought that way.As what happen to Modified.... now it's going to happen to stock soon,as they will 1st put stock into ss, why else would you be able to run heads & blocks for Mopar & Gm that are being made right now,not what came on the cars like before.. it's going to happen , less class tear down,no class trophys .not much cost to have 1 elim. and still not much of a pay-out .

07-11-2008, 08:01 PM	#26
John Warehime Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 291 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Wally is dead. Let's look to the future.

07-11-2008, 08:25 PM	#27
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,860 Likes: 456 Liked 16,540 Times in 1,521 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Jack, I couldn't agree with you more, lets race. Mr Warehime you are correct, the only advantage I have is very few wish to build one.

07-11-2008, 10:37 PM	#28
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Mr. Kasch is correct! You guys who have been racing only a few years and think you know it all couldn't be farther from being right. You are giving NHRA a ticket to eliminate class racing. If you win class at an event, no matter how, you deserve to be in the show! If NHRA doesn't run class at an event they save $100 per class for the cost of the trophy. See where this is going? Sportsman, Pro and Super Pro ET.Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association. Last edited by Jim Wahl; 07-13-2008 at 12:12 AM.

07-11-2008, 10:56 PM	#29
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,629 Likes: 1,922 Liked 10,681 Times in 2,222 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Kenny, if you take all the Santa Clause stuff out of your car your point of view might change. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

07-11-2008, 11:17 PM	#30
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,860 Likes: 456 Liked 16,540 Times in 1,521 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Larry, thats because I have been good. Santa always knows who has been naughty or nice. The question is, have you been naughty or nice? I think its obvious.