NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule - Page 3

Dave Gantz · 10-05-2018, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Good question.

What makes an 11.50 bracket car safer than a 12.85 Stock Eliminator car?

I agree. Probably incompetence on NHRA's part.
I'm sure the bottom line is a matter of following the money trail.
My 87 Mustang street car needs a roll bar if the air is good. (11.40's) I don't want the seat belt hassle, so no roll bar, and I only go when the air is bad. I have no problem with a roll bar and race belts, but just let me use them (race belts) for more than 2 years! I hardly ever run it.
But, I digress. I can't help myself when I see these roll bar threads.

X-TECH MAN · 10-05-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

I agree. Probably incompetence on NHRA's part.
I'm sure the bottom line is a matter of following the money trail.
My 87 Mustang street car needs a roll bar if the air is good. (11.40's) I don't want the seat belt hassle, so no roll bar, and I only go when the air is bad. I have no problem with a roll bar and race belts, but just let me use them (race belts) for more than 2 years! I hardly ever run it.
But, I digress. I can't help myself when I see these roll bar threads.

Why not just slow your car down a tenth or so instead of just racing in bad air ? Carry an extra 100 lbs in the trunk, short shift it, install a throttle limiter like when S/G came into nhra's program back in the stone age ?

Chevy55 · 10-05-2018, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Why not just slow your car down a tenth or so instead of just racing in bad air ? Carry an extra 100 lbs in the trunk, short shift it, install a throttle limiter like when S/G came into nhra's program back in the stone age ?

Why won't the NHRA rewrite the rule so they're not legally responsible for the seat belt like NASCAR?

Keith 944 · 10-05-2018, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Why not just slow your car down a tenth or so instead of just racing in bad air ? Carry an extra 100 lbs in the trunk, short shift it, install a throttle limiter like when S/G came into nhra's program back in the stone age ?

Exactly! What I do with my street/strip car is disconnect the back carb barrels. slows it about 1/2 sec. or i carry weight, and can also adjust timing, easy peasy! Some use one of the mechanical stops. whatever gets the job done. like many, I just don't want to put a roll bar in a pristine 67 dodge coronet that is still occasionally driven on the street

Bruce Fulper · 10-05-2018, 08:14 PM

NHRA: "We REALLY don't mind if you get injured." ...............or worse.

Dave Gantz · 10-06-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Why not just slow your car down a tenth or so instead of just racing in bad air ? Carry an extra 100 lbs in the trunk, short shift it, install a throttle limiter like when S/G came into nhra's program back in the stone age ?

I'm guessing you're saying that with tongue in cheek, but I'll address it anyway.
I have a few more things I'd like to do to the car. It's a toy, and I like getting what I can out of it. It'll probably go low 11's with what I want to do. I've always understood that there has to be a line (et) somewhere where a roll bar is required, and I'll eventually do the roll bar. But now, because a car is quick from the factory, it's safer than mine?

X-TECH MAN · 10-06-2018, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

I'm guessing you're saying that with tongue in cheek, but I'll address it anyway.
I have a few more things I'd like to do to the car. It's a toy, and I like getting what I can out of it. It'll probably go low 11's with what I want to do. I've always understood that there has to be a line (et) somewhere where a roll bar is required, and I'll eventually do the roll bar. But now, because a car is quick from the factory, it's safer than mine?

It does not matter to me if something goes wrong and a tire blows, or the engine oils down the tires and it goes on its roof. Hang on to the steering wheel ! As far as any of this new junk being safer..........NOPE. Not a bit when you hit the wall at around 100 MPH plus.

Bill Bogues · 10-06-2018, 04:24 PM

Drive a U/sa and all you need is a helmet.

ALMACK · 10-06-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Bogues

Drive a U/sa and all you need is a helmet.

Yep.
When I ran 11.80's in N/SA 4 years ago a helmet was all that I needed and my 28 year old seat belts

Coleydog · 10-06-2018, 07:57 PM

A roll "bar" is nothing more than a suppliant to the car, whitch the car is considered a cage of sorts. If being highly safe, a funny car roll cage is your only option, the rest is a money grab, pure and simple.
Fighter jets go longer than two years on belts, mostly after 6-10 gs I think.
The dumbest, blow shield re-inspection, 1/4 inch steel goes bad I guess.

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10-06-2018, 07:57 PM	#30
Coleydog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 569 Likes: 36 Liked 53 Times in 38 Posts	Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule A roll "bar" is nothing more than a suppliant to the car, whitch the car is considered a cage of sorts. If being highly safe, a funny car roll cage is your only option, the rest is a money grab, pure and simple. Fighter jets go longer than two years on belts, mostly after 6-10 gs I think. The dumbest, blow shield re-inspection, 1/4 inch steel goes bad I guess.