Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners - Page 4

Dick Butler · 04-19-2008, 05:55 PM

Jeff, Sorry but tap on the fender of the next Late model Firebird Stocker you see and decide if it is original or Carbon fiber....

04-19-2008, 06:38 PM

I don't see what the big deal is about running steel in place of aluminum. To me it is more original to let them run steel instead of fiberglass. They built 64's with steel not fiberglass. It will always be said that the Hemi's are getting away with more. It has been that way for over 30 years in most peoples eyes and will continue for years to come. As they say people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks! maybe NHRA should look around at non hemi cars!

Paul Precht · 04-19-2008, 07:21 PM

The fact that some of the cars were sold with steel noses and the aluminum parts were avail over the counter says it all, you should be allowed to run either one, Paul.

SSDiv6 · 04-19-2008, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Jeff, Sorry but tap on the fender of the next Late model Firebird Stocker you see and decide if it is original or Carbon fiber....

Yes, you can tell the difference between Carbon Fiber and Fiberglass in many ways.

Jeff Lee · 04-19-2008, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Jeff, Sorry but tap on the fender of the next Late model Firebird Stocker you see and decide if it is original or Carbon fiber....

New one on me! The factory had an impact resistant plastic material, didn't they?

Dick Butler · 04-20-2008, 06:51 AM

Jeff, Yes But....my impression is it wasnt the lightest form of stuff available.The important thing in the end is allow the 64 cars to run steel or glass or but be reasonable about body parts costs as you would be about old heads, carbs or.....The cars must weigh correct wt to run. They are an important part of S and SS.
Dick

chris ok · 04-20-2008, 08:37 AM

no disrespect to the slower cars but hemis, big blocks, vintage race cars et all will help put customers in the stands and turn said customers into fans. regular fans will become fanatics and in turn help keep a most sacred class of drag racing alive and well.
people want to see the fast classes, wheelies and more heads up races. nhra must remember its roots before they are pulled from the ground. hemis thunderbolts cobra jets L88's copos give the racers a way to show these cars, they may help sagging sales to our big 3. fans see their favorite cars brands win on sunday, buy a new or used car or suv on monday. true to their hearts. Last but not least these cars are american history and need to be kept in some spotlight so future generations will appreciate our past.

Jeff Lee · 04-20-2008, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Jeff, Yes But....my impression is it wasnt the lightest form of stuff available.The important thing in the end is allow the 64 cars to run steel or glass or but be reasonable about body parts costs as you would be about old heads, carbs or.....The cars must weigh correct wt to run. They are an important part of S and SS.
Dick

NHRA used to have a rule (was it stock or ss?) that the weight bias could be no less than 50% on the front. And there is no reason when it comes to money spent by racers when allowed to purchase aftermarket parts! Like I said, given the choice those with the $$ will have carbon fibre ASAP.

James L Miller · 05-06-2008, 12:18 PM

NHRA has changed the rules for the Hemi cars to allowing steel front end pieces with either the aluminum or steel scoop. The MW lightweights must run the aluminum fenders, hood and sccop. Thanks to Wesley and NHRA and David Hakim and others for helping revise this to a more affordable level (not affordable, but MORE affordable). Check out the classification guides.

Travis Miller · 05-06-2008, 10:00 PM

Credit must be given to John Donato from Chrysler Corp as the guy who got this matter straightened out. When you see John at the races give him a thumbs up.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

04-19-2008, 05:55 PM	#31
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Jeff, Sorry but tap on the fender of the next Late model Firebird Stocker you see and decide if it is original or Carbon fiber....

04-19-2008, 06:38 PM	#32
J Oliverio Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners I don't see what the big deal is about running steel in place of aluminum. To me it is more original to let them run steel instead of fiberglass. They built 64's with steel not fiberglass. It will always be said that the Hemi's are getting away with more. It has been that way for over 30 years in most peoples eyes and will continue for years to come. As they say people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks! maybe NHRA should look around at non hemi cars!

04-19-2008, 07:21 PM	#33
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 733 Likes: 359 Liked 327 Times in 121 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners The fact that some of the cars were sold with steel noses and the aluminum parts were avail over the counter says it all, you should be allowed to run either one, Paul.

04-20-2008, 06:51 AM	#36
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Jeff, Yes But....my impression is it wasnt the lightest form of stuff available.The important thing in the end is allow the 64 cars to run steel or glass or but be reasonable about body parts costs as you would be about old heads, carbs or.....The cars must weigh correct wt to run. They are an important part of S and SS. Dick

04-20-2008, 08:37 AM	#37
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners no disrespect to the slower cars but hemis, big blocks, vintage race cars et all will help put customers in the stands and turn said customers into fans. regular fans will become fanatics and in turn help keep a most sacred class of drag racing alive and well. people want to see the fast classes, wheelies and more heads up races. nhra must remember its roots before they are pulled from the ground. hemis thunderbolts cobra jets L88's copos give the racers a way to show these cars, they may help sagging sales to our big 3. fans see their favorite cars brands win on sunday, buy a new or used car or suv on monday. true to their hearts. Last but not least these cars are american history and need to be kept in some spotlight so future generations will appreciate our past.

05-06-2008, 12:18 PM	#39
James L Miller Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 494 Likes: 6 Liked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners NHRA has changed the rules for the Hemi cars to allowing steel front end pieces with either the aluminum or steel scoop. The MW lightweights must run the aluminum fenders, hood and sccop. Thanks to Wesley and NHRA and David Hakim and others for helping revise this to a more affordable level (not affordable, but MORE affordable). Check out the classification guides.

05-06-2008, 10:00 PM	#40
Travis Miller Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 478 Likes: 1 Liked 276 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Credit must be given to John Donato from Chrysler Corp as the guy who got this matter straightened out. When you see John at the races give him a thumbs up. Travis (Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)