Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners

Chuck Rayburn · 04-10-2008, 01:51 AM

Unless you are running a complete aluminum front end...you have been deleted from the classification guide.
The paperwork was submitted back in the 60's and they have either lost it or didn't bother to look for it.
Chuck Rayburn chuckr426@comcast.net

Mopar Steve · 04-10-2008, 04:25 PM

I thought the steel nose cars were a one year only deal in 1969? That's what I was told at least.

I have one of the four Chrysler sponsored that year.

Greg Gay · 04-10-2008, 05:10 PM

Chuck, you should sell that car . . . to ME!

Chuck Rayburn · 04-10-2008, 06:38 PM

Greg,
First, you have to know that my 64 steel nose is an "imaginary" car...it doesn't really exist and these cars haven't really been running NHRA events for the last 44 years.
Sort of makes pricing difficult.

Bob Sherwood · 04-10-2008, 09:31 PM

Hello Chuck ,missed talking to you in Phoenix . The deal with the 64 is about like my corvette. For 25 years, the 71 454 ran with the L88 hood and an extra 40 HP then one day it wasn't legal gone was the hood but they won't take off the extra HP ? Where do those boys in Calif get their logic? thanks Bob

MFR440 · 04-10-2008, 11:06 PM

Chuck,

I met you at Indy a few years ago, and have enjoyed watching your COOL '64 run. I hope that the NHRA gets a clue on this so you can continue competing. Best of luck getting this situation sorted out. I can't believe all the bogus combinations out there, and the bozos in power have to pick on a truly SWEET car like yours. Heck, we're only one winning lottery ticket away from running a HEMI in our '64! LOL!

Have you called your NHRA Sportsman Advisory Council Representative yet?!

Count me as one fan who will be very disappointed (and less likely to attend races) if cool cars like yours continue to be outlawed...

Jeff Lee · 04-11-2008, 12:37 AM

Chuck,
Are they saying you can't race unless you have the aluminum package installed? Or are you saying the package is not recognized; period? I was always under the impression you could race a factory lite-weight in Stock or SS as long as it's in the books with either the correct parts or (heavier) steel parts in lieu of rare parts?

Chuck Rayburn · 04-11-2008, 02:47 AM

Jeff,
They are saying that the only way you can run a 64 race hemi is with aluminum fenders and aluminum hood and hood scoop. The steel fenders and hood were accepted as superceded/replacement parts for these cars 40 years ago and have been running with mixed steel and aluminum components since then. Its not like we can replace the steel with the aluminum components...they quit making the aluminum 44 years ago. That makes the car ineligible to run at NHRA events as a SS/BA and therefore worth about a third of what it was worth a couple of weeks ago.
Needless to say, I'm more than just a little pissed...and getting more pissed everyday. I can't speak for the other 10 or so cars that are affected by this...I can't imagine them not freaking out when they find out.(The intent of this post is to somehow get the word out to those guys.)

bsa633 · 04-11-2008, 03:26 AM

It figures...just would make to much common sense...I guess if it is things like chevy rods in a Ford..Alu-heads and intakes on cars that never had'em i
they have a better chances to "fly" as superseeded stuff!

jarn05 · 04-11-2008, 02:41 PM

chuck i am looking for my copies of the original paper work bill dismuke sent to my dad in the early 1980's about this car combination. these cars were built as business coupes and available with heaters as well , they were shipped with steel on them and had the dealer install the aluminum components as per ordered. as soon as i find the paper work i will post it here. jimi

p.s. greg if you are really interested in a b body hemi car my dad is interested in selling either of the cars.

04-10-2008, 01:51 AM	#1
Chuck Rayburn Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26 Likes: 21 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Unless you are running a complete aluminum front end...you have been deleted from the classification guide. The paperwork was submitted back in the 60's and they have either lost it or didn't bother to look for it. Chuck Rayburn chuckr426@comcast.net __________________ Chuck Rayburn 7426 SS

04-10-2008, 04:25 PM	#2
Mopar Steve Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 92 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners I thought the steel nose cars were a one year only deal in 1969? That's what I was told at least. I have one of the four Chrysler sponsored that year.

04-10-2008, 05:10 PM	#3
Greg Gay Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 385 Likes: 21 Liked 283 Times in 70 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Chuck, you should sell that car . . . to ME!

04-10-2008, 06:38 PM	#4
Chuck Rayburn Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26 Likes: 21 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Greg, First, you have to know that my 64 steel nose is an "imaginary" car...it doesn't really exist and these cars haven't really been running NHRA events for the last 44 years. Sort of makes pricing difficult. __________________ Chuck Rayburn 7426 SS

04-10-2008, 09:31 PM	#5
Bob Sherwood Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Dakota Posts: 153 Likes: 70 Liked 388 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Hello Chuck ,missed talking to you in Phoenix . The deal with the 64 is about like my corvette. For 25 years, the 71 454 ran with the L88 hood and an extra 40 HP then one day it wasn't legal gone was the hood but they won't take off the extra HP ? Where do those boys in Calif get their logic? thanks Bob

04-10-2008, 11:06 PM	#6
MFR440 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 112 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Chuck, I met you at Indy a few years ago, and have enjoyed watching your COOL '64 run. I hope that the NHRA gets a clue on this so you can continue competing. Best of luck getting this situation sorted out. I can't believe all the bogus combinations out there, and the bozos in power have to pick on a truly SWEET car like yours. Heck, we're only one winning lottery ticket away from running a HEMI in our '64! LOL! Have you called your NHRA Sportsman Advisory Council Representative yet?! Count me as one fan who will be very disappointed (and less likely to attend races) if cool cars like yours continue to be outlawed... __________________ Meyer Family Racing (re-tired) 1965 Dodge Coronet - Steet car and Part-time N/SS 1962 Plymouth Fury S/ST #3384 - Race in Peace, Craig Meyer Last edited by MFR440; 04-10-2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason: clarification

04-11-2008, 12:37 AM	#7
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Chuck, Are they saying you can't race unless you have the aluminum package installed? Or are you saying the package is not recognized; period? I was always under the impression you could race a factory lite-weight in Stock or SS as long as it's in the books with either the correct parts or (heavier) steel parts in lieu of rare parts? __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

04-11-2008, 02:47 AM	#8
Chuck Rayburn Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26 Likes: 21 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Jeff, They are saying that the only way you can run a 64 race hemi is with aluminum fenders and aluminum hood and hood scoop. The steel fenders and hood were accepted as superceded/replacement parts for these cars 40 years ago and have been running with mixed steel and aluminum components since then. Its not like we can replace the steel with the aluminum components...they quit making the aluminum 44 years ago. That makes the car ineligible to run at NHRA events as a SS/BA and therefore worth about a third of what it was worth a couple of weeks ago. Needless to say, I'm more than just a little pissed...and getting more pissed everyday. I can't speak for the other 10 or so cars that are affected by this...I can't imagine them not freaking out when they find out.(The intent of this post is to somehow get the word out to those guys.) __________________ Chuck Rayburn 7426 SS

04-11-2008, 03:26 AM	#9
bsa633 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 310 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners It figures...just would make to much common sense...I guess if it is things like chevy rods in a Ford..Alu-heads and intakes on cars that never had'em i they have a better chances to "fly" as superseeded stuff!

04-11-2008, 02:41 PM	#10
jarn05 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 40 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners chuck i am looking for my copies of the original paper work bill dismuke sent to my dad in the early 1980's about this car combination. these cars were built as business coupes and available with heaters as well , they were shipped with steel on them and had the dealer install the aluminum components as per ordered. as soon as i find the paper work i will post it here. jimi p.s. greg if you are really interested in a b body hemi car my dad is interested in selling either of the cars.