Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac - Page 4

BlueOval Ralph · 11-03-2010, 07:52 AM

GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake!
You are right on about the Big 3 giving up on the small car market for the trucks & suvs that made them more money. They gambled and lost the small market it will be a long time if evere before they get it back. Once the young kids are in a Honda it will be very hard to get them out.

GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake-they
stopped building cars that young people without a lot of money found interesting and would be their first cars (remember when we were in our late teens and Ford, GM, and Chrysler made lots of these cars-we are still racing them). So kids turned to Honda and Toyota for these cars-you call them riceburners, the kids call them tuner cars. So finally Ford has come out with the Fiesta, Chevy the Cruze, and Chrysler will have a version of the Fiat 500. All of these cars have gotten good reviews and I expect my next car will be one of them when it comes time to replace my Civic (I own a comp car-i can't afford a Challenger or Camaro or Mustang). If the American brands want to survive, they need to start building cars that kids can afford to buy and want to buy in order to develop brand loyalty, although I'm not sure that will help since kids don't seem to have and loyalty to bands, much less brands-they do seem to love anything from Apple though, but then that could be because Apple tends to build good products.[/QUOTE]

FrankChastain · 11-03-2010, 07:56 AM

Wonder when GM will have one pickup and which will win GMC or Chevy? FrankChastain

SCOTT SST2871 · 11-03-2010, 08:17 AM

Im sitting here at my desk at the pontiac dealership that ive worked at for nearly 20 years with pictures of my pontiac race car hanging on the wall behind me watching guys take down the pontiac logos on the front of our buildings and now i have to answer my phone saying buick/gmc without mention of pontiac!!!
I came to work here and took a healthy cut in pay in 1991 because i loved my pontiacs,so whos having a bad day now!!
Scott fifield

Jack Matyas · 11-03-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CBS

Its time for that Ford you always wanted Jack....lol

Rock -- You have no idea how right you really are ............

Second -- Some of you are missing the point of this thread -- its not about the Chinese , or about Buicks or even about the mismanagement of General Motors but about the passing of an iconic brand who served us up the Swiss Cheese Catalinas - Fuel Injected Bonnevilles - Tri-Powered GTO's - Ram Air 4 Judges - Firehawk LT4 Ram Air Firebirds and finally the 06 Ram Air LS2 GTO -- these and many more not mentioned were brought to us by some brave folks who worked at Pontiac Motor Division and brought our dreams to reality ............many thanks to all of them ! ! ! !

As you may tell from the below photo I've been playing with this brand awhile ....

SCOTT SST2871 · 11-03-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jack matyas

rock -- you have no idea how right you really are ............

Second -- some of you are missing the point of this thread -- its not about the chinese , or about buicks or even about the mismanagement of general motors but about the passing of an iconic brand who served us up the swiss cheese catalinas - fuel injected bonnevilles - tri-powered gto's - ram air 4 judges - firehawk lt4 ram air firebirds and finally the 06 ram air ls2 gto -- these and many more not mentioned were brought to us by some brave folks who worked at pontiac motor division and brought our dreams to reality ............many thanks to all of them ! ! ! !

absolutely correct
scott fifield

ItsyBitsySpider · 11-03-2010, 09:01 AM

Very sad. it's like the death of a grand old friend. I'm so sorry Scott.
My very first car was an orange '68 Firebird. I saved for 2 years to buy it ($400.) How I loved that car.

SCOTT SST2871 · 11-03-2010, 09:35 AM

Jack,i cant compete with that nor am i trying to but i bought my first pontiac in 1983 and my second pontiac i drove in high school is also the car ive raced for 22 years and its pontiac powered and always will be
even my golf cart is black with flames and pontiac emblems
scott fifield

Bobby DiDomenico · 11-03-2010, 03:47 PM

Maybe this line explains it, "the Beach Boys singing about their GTO"? I bet Ronnie is really pissed...

"The sound of the Beach Boys singing about their GTO faded a long time ago, but today Pontiac ends 84 years of automotive history and signals the end of an era. Once one of the world’s great automotive names, Pontiac fell out of favor with consumers. However, those who remember never fell out of love with the memory of Pontiac."

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.ac...81474978657314

blkjack · 11-03-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopar Steve

No different than a Holden with Pontiac emblems.

This was really supposed to be the 2011 Saturn Aura.....why not an outcry from all you Saturn racers out there?!!!!

CycloneFE · 11-03-2010, 07:04 PM

Jack, I DO understand and feel your pain. My youngest cousin, which I taught him his first words, Ford, Chevy, Camaro, Mustang, forsake d us all for Olds(442) and he was the first in our family. My Father with a 1965 Pontiac Tempest(purchased new) was the next. I will follow with my Cyclone when Mercury shuts the doors.

Bad part is I am building a shop for my Merc and Dad just gave me his Poncho. Now I will have 2 obsolete cars in there.

Steve

11-03-2010, 07:52 AM	#31
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake! You are right on about the Big 3 giving up on the small car market for the trucks & suvs that made them more money. They gambled and lost the small market it will be a long time if evere before they get it back. Once the young kids are in a Honda it will be very hard to get them out. GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake-they stopped building cars that young people without a lot of money found interesting and would be their first cars (remember when we were in our late teens and Ford, GM, and Chrysler made lots of these cars-we are still racing them). So kids turned to Honda and Toyota for these cars-you call them riceburners, the kids call them tuner cars. So finally Ford has come out with the Fiesta, Chevy the Cruze, and Chrysler will have a version of the Fiat 500. All of these cars have gotten good reviews and I expect my next car will be one of them when it comes time to replace my Civic (I own a comp car-i can't afford a Challenger or Camaro or Mustang). If the American brands want to survive, they need to start building cars that kids can afford to buy and want to buy in order to develop brand loyalty, although I'm not sure that will help since kids don't seem to have and loyalty to bands, much less brands-they do seem to love anything from Apple though, but then that could be because Apple tends to build good products.[/QUOTE]

11-03-2010, 07:56 AM	#32
FrankChastain Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trussville, Alabama-Originally from Vidalia,GA Posts: 642 Likes: 9 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Wonder when GM will have one pickup and which will win GMC or Chevy? FrankChastain

11-03-2010, 08:17 AM	#33
SCOTT SST2871 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PORT ST JOHN FLORIDA Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Im sitting here at my desk at the pontiac dealership that ive worked at for nearly 20 years with pictures of my pontiac race car hanging on the wall behind me watching guys take down the pontiac logos on the front of our buildings and now i have to answer my phone saying buick/gmc without mention of pontiac!!! I came to work here and took a healthy cut in pay in 1991 because i loved my pontiacs,so whos having a bad day now!! Scott fifield

11-03-2010, 09:01 AM	#36
ItsyBitsySpider Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida & NY Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Very sad. it's like the death of a grand old friend. I'm so sorry Scott. My very first car was an orange '68 Firebird. I saved for 2 years to buy it ($400.) How I loved that car. __________________ Shelley Wiley BF/S, S/G, S/C

11-03-2010, 09:35 AM	#37
SCOTT SST2871 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PORT ST JOHN FLORIDA Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Jack,i cant compete with that nor am i trying to but i bought my first pontiac in 1983 and my second pontiac i drove in high school is also the car ive raced for 22 years and its pontiac powered and always will be even my golf cart is black with flames and pontiac emblems scott fifield

11-03-2010, 03:47 PM	#38
Bobby DiDomenico Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 924 Likes: 103 Liked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Maybe this line explains it, "the Beach Boys singing about their GTO"? I bet Ronnie is really pissed... "The sound of the Beach Boys singing about their GTO faded a long time ago, but today Pontiac ends 84 years of automotive history and signals the end of an era. Once one of the world’s great automotive names, Pontiac fell out of favor with consumers. However, those who remember never fell out of love with the memory of Pontiac." http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.ac...81474978657314

11-03-2010, 07:04 PM	#40
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Jack, I DO understand and feel your pain. My youngest cousin, which I taught him his first words, Ford, Chevy, Camaro, Mustang, forsake d us all for Olds(442) and he was the first in our family. My Father with a 1965 Pontiac Tempest(purchased new) was the next. I will follow with my Cyclone when Mercury shuts the doors. Bad part is I am building a shop for my Merc and Dad just gave me his Poncho. Now I will have 2 obsolete cars in there. Steve