Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac - Page 3

mike natoli · 11-02-2010, 10:38 AM

Sorry to hear about Pontiac yesterday. My first fast ride in a car was my older cousin's Brand new 1965 Grand Prix with a 421 superduty tri power car. Will never forget that was what hooked me. Thanks for the memories.
Oldsmobile,
Saturn,
Plymouth,
AMC,
Studebaker,
Hudson,
Packard,
Dusenberg,
Aurburn

Greg Hill · 11-02-2010, 10:55 AM

For someone who owns two Pontiacs,[ 65GTO convertible and a 67 400 Firebird convertible] I hate to see Pontiac go but the fault was their own. For a company that sold excitement in the 50's, 60's,and part of the 70's, the last 30 years they built boring cars that were of questionable quality.

Bobby DiDomenico · 11-02-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blkjack

I guess the Regal would work in PS

Isn't that an Opel with Buick emblems?

david ring · 11-02-2010, 12:11 PM

GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake-they stopped building cars that young people without a lot of money found interesting and would be their first cars (remember when we were in our late teens and Ford, GM, and Chrysler made lots of these cars-we are still racing them). So kids turned to Honda and Toyota for these cars-you call them riceburners, the kids call them tuner cars. So finally Ford has come out with the Fiesta, Chevy the Cruze, and Chrysler will have a version of the Fiat 500. All of these cars have gotten good reviews and I expect my next car will be one of them when it comes time to replace my Civic (I own a comp car-i can't afford a Challenger or Camaro or Mustang). If the American brands want to survive, they need to start building cars that kids can afford to buy and want to buy in order to develop brand loyalty, although I'm not sure that will help since kids don't seem to have and loyalty to bands, much less brands-they do seem to love anything from Apple though, but then that could be because Apple tends to build good products.

Mopar Steve · 11-02-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

Isn't that an Opel with Buick emblems?

No different than a Holden with Pontiac emblems.

Bart Kilraine · 11-02-2010, 02:31 PM

Buick sells 6 X more cars in China then the U.S.,so it ain't hard to believe China could take over Goverment Motors Buick Div. for some debt !

Jack Matyas · 11-02-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunkster

If you have a problem with "no-names" like me or others, then keep your little carcus down in "NHRA/IHRA Competition Members" section.

Ken set that up so that tough guys like you could stay away from the cowards and Pecksnifs such as no-names like myself.

Bunkster -- You and Mr. Ed are hi-jacking my thread -- take it someplace else please ! ! !

Bunkster · 11-02-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Bunkster -- You and Mr. Ed are hi-jacking my thread -- take it someplace else please ! ! !

Mr. Matyas, I've hijacked nothing. This Fernandez character started this with his fetish of not knowing everyone's social security number and birth date. If you have a problem, direct your anger at him.

On target with your thread, a couple of other dates are memorable:

3/16/66: Last day a Studebaker was produced.

6/25/57: Last day a Hudson Hornet was produced.

Life goes on.

blkjack · 11-02-2010, 06:26 PM

If it weren't for the Chinese making Buick the number one import car the port-hole people would be crying and not the Chief.

cicero819 · 11-02-2010, 06:34 PM

How did GM management survived all those years? Brand loyalty is how! the minute they stopped giving what the consumer wanted and the more they gaved us those front wheel drive cars(since it made more sense for the bottom dollar) They damaged the confidence that consumer and their loyal customer had in them. Building a 4000lbs Camaro with all the options of a Cruise ship won't make new converts to Chevrolet either. I own a 1994 Pontiac Trans Am and an Oldsmobile 98 for my own personal cars and enjoy both reliable vehicles. Since I was a young man I always said : buy foreign cars get a foreign pension from them! We are buying too much Chinese junk as it is. Sorry Jack didn't mean to turn this into a political message. Thanks for the thread. Claude

11-02-2010, 10:38 AM	#21
mike natoli Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Valley Stream mini Gasoline Alley & Div I Posts: 100 Likes: 25 Liked 51 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Sorry to hear about Pontiac yesterday. My first fast ride in a car was my older cousin's Brand new 1965 Grand Prix with a 421 superduty tri power car. Will never forget that was what hooked me. Thanks for the memories. Oldsmobile, Saturn, Plymouth, AMC, Studebaker, Hudson, Packard, Dusenberg, Aurburn

11-02-2010, 10:55 AM	#22
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac For someone who owns two Pontiacs,[ 65GTO convertible and a 67 400 Firebird convertible] I hate to see Pontiac go but the fault was their own. For a company that sold excitement in the 50's, 60's,and part of the 70's, the last 30 years they built boring cars that were of questionable quality. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

11-02-2010, 12:11 PM	#24
david ring Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oneonta.,NY Posts: 889 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake-they stopped building cars that young people without a lot of money found interesting and would be their first cars (remember when we were in our late teens and Ford, GM, and Chrysler made lots of these cars-we are still racing them). So kids turned to Honda and Toyota for these cars-you call them riceburners, the kids call them tuner cars. So finally Ford has come out with the Fiesta, Chevy the Cruze, and Chrysler will have a version of the Fiat 500. All of these cars have gotten good reviews and I expect my next car will be one of them when it comes time to replace my Civic (I own a comp car-i can't afford a Challenger or Camaro or Mustang). If the American brands want to survive, they need to start building cars that kids can afford to buy and want to buy in order to develop brand loyalty, although I'm not sure that will help since kids don't seem to have and loyalty to bands, much less brands-they do seem to love anything from Apple though, but then that could be because Apple tends to build good products.

11-02-2010, 02:31 PM	#26
Bart Kilraine Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Carrolltown,PA Posts: 118 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Buick sells 6 X more cars in China then the U.S.,so it ain't hard to believe China could take over Goverment Motors Buick Div. for some debt !

11-02-2010, 06:26 PM	#29
blkjack Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Belle Vernon, PA Posts: 288 Likes: 26 Liked 55 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac If it weren't for the Chinese making Buick the number one import car the port-hole people would be crying and not the Chief.

11-02-2010, 06:34 PM	#30
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac How did GM management survived all those years? Brand loyalty is how! the minute they stopped giving what the consumer wanted and the more they gaved us those front wheel drive cars(since it made more sense for the bottom dollar) They damaged the confidence that consumer and their loyal customer had in them. Building a 4000lbs Camaro with all the options of a Cruise ship won't make new converts to Chevrolet either. I own a 1994 Pontiac Trans Am and an Oldsmobile 98 for my own personal cars and enjoy both reliable vehicles. Since I was a young man I always said : buy foreign cars get a foreign pension from them! We are buying too much Chinese junk as it is. Sorry Jack didn't mean to turn this into a political message. Thanks for the thread. Claude