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Old 01-17-2011, 04:06 PM   #51
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Well the entry fee is $50. + Cheaper and the payout is $200. MORE than for a guy running s/st , there's an incentive.....

I hope it doesn't float..........
$60 dollars cheaper actually but $200 semis and no round money and no contingency but it will definitely draw a boat load of local bracket racers. Trying to run 13 classes and any potential (inevitable?) delays will limit everyone's time trials and possibly extend the event. But will have to see how it plays out...
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:26 PM   #52
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No one got checked at Indy for electronics or throttle stops. The cars we watched were 8.90 cars, one of them runs Indy a lot and definatly has a throttle stop. The other car launched the same way; hard launch, off the throttle for a 1/2 second or so and then back on the gas all the way to the stripe. All the classes had racers hitting the brakes or womping the throttle before the stripe, nothing wrong with that.
I worked the Indy and Columbus Unleashed races. Cars WERE checked for electronics and throttle stops.. There were several cars that we made remove their electronic throttle stops in tech.

At Indy the starting line crew called us several times to check certain cars suspected of using throttle stops...none were found on those cars. BTW, we did DQ a car during eliminations for having a timer on his nitrous system. We also DQ'd a car for running faster than his safety equipment allowed. Several others were warned but they were able to slow down and run within their limits.

Here are the basic rules for the Unleashed Index classes:

ELECTRONICS RULES FOR HEADS-UP INDEX CLASSES
· Delay boxes and/or timed throttle stops prohibited
· Mechanical type throttle stops permitted. Any adjustment during run prohibited
· Timers of any kind associated with, but not limited to, fuel and/or nitrous delivery, throttle control, vehicle performance criteria, etc. are strictly prohibited
· Transmission brakes permitted
· Two-steps permitted

Info can be found on the NHRA website under Unleashed.

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Old 01-17-2011, 09:36 PM   #53
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They were probably just lifting the throttle. You can kill a lot of time early in the run by doing that, and counting to yourself how long to stay off the throttle to get yourself in the ball park. I used to have to do that with my Powerglide SS car when I ran the local ( then) AHRA track. Those records were so bogus-slow it was almost impossible to kill that much ( 1.1 seconds) at the finish line. Slap it into high, lift, count, and back on it. Never saw or heard of throttle stops back then . Probably what was going on there.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:04 PM   #54
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Travis.......Thank you for the info on the rules.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:24 PM   #55
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This sounds like another enhanced reason to sit back and develope other hobbies. Little by little I'm loosing interest in what nhra has to offer. I keep wondering if it wouldn't be smarter to not use the money I set aside for a winter update on the car, and use it for a needed update on the fishing boat. If it wasn't for good friends and wheels up launches, I would already be fishing. Now, if I can just get the little fishing boat to take off with the bow straight up........................ah hell, the Challenger is still more fun!

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Old 01-17-2011, 10:55 PM   #56
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This sounds like another enhanced reason to sit back and develope other hobbies. Little by little I'm loosing interest in what nhra has to offer. I keep wondering if it wouldn't be smarter to not use the money I set aside for a winter update on the car, and use it for a needed update on the fishing boat. If it wasn't for good friends and wheels up launches, I would already be fishing. Now, if I can just get the little fishing boat to take off with the bow straight up........................ah hell, the Challenger is still more fun!

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Jim, just bring all your stuff and leave it up here, and race division 4. You can always drop the wife off at the casinos
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And they were worried about Oil Downs with us LOL !!!!
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:24 AM   #58
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Jim, just bring all your stuff and leave it up here, and race division 4. You can always drop the wife off at the casinos
That's where mine almost lives.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:37 AM   #59
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Is there really a time issue in Div. 2? I'm pretty sure that last year Chip told me he got SIX time shots at Atlanta. I was like, "What are you guys DOING down there?! National Time Trial Association?"
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Is there really a time issue in Div. 2? I'm pretty sure that last year Chip told me he got SIX time shots at Atlanta. I was like, "What are you guys DOING down there?! National Time Trial Association?"
That's a fair question but Atlanta was an exception. Lots of racers don't like Atlanta or at least how the fall D2 race there is sandwiched between so many other events, at that point in the year people are getting tired of all the back to back weekends. Consequently, car counts were low, the weather cooperated, and things went smoothly. Let's see how they manage running 13 classes when a little scheduling adversity is thrown into the mix. Bradenton will be the first test, we shall see but I've been convinced to try it in hopes the tracks can make some money, which is hard to do with the Alky cars. If the tracks can't make money none of us will be racing.
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