What's with the hood...

[Jeff Lee]

Takes one to know one?

[boster]

Guess you know one

[dragracer9911]

Terry, you know a lot more folks that I do.
I have a picture of Gene's mustang at home, it was brown or a shade of burgundy. I think that it was from Budds Creek (P.S., when Bill bought the track, it was renamed Budds Creek for a while). I usally went to Budds Creek or Colional BEach with either Roy and Mary Wilsure or with Dickie.
I don't know if Mr. Slater still has the Challenger or not. It used to sit on that open trailer with the box on the front out on the edge of Route 381 all the time. I know that he has the blue Plymonth Arrow that his grandson drives in Super Pro. Mr. Salter is one of the nicest people in racing. He always speaks to me when I see him from when I safety tech'ed at MIR. no matter where I see him.

Thanks, Tom Sr.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by dragracer9911

Terry, you know a lot more folks that I do.
I have a picture of Gene's mustang at home, it was brown or a shade of burgundy. I think that it was from Budds Creek (P.S., when Bill bought the track, it was renamed Budds Creek for a while). I usally went to Budds Creek or Colional BEach with either Roy and Mary Wilsure or with Dickie.
I don't know if Mr. Slater still has the Challenger or not. It used to sit on that open trailer with the box on the front out on the edge of Route 381 all the time. I know that he has the blue Plymonth Arrow that his grandson drives in Super Pro. Mr. Salter is one of the nicest people in racing. He always speaks to me when I see him from when I safety tech'ed at MIR. no matter where I see him.

Thanks, Tom Sr.

Hi again......Frank sold the Challenger several years ago when he got the Arrow. It was cut up pretty bad as a bracket car. Sad part is he threw the shaker hood out behind his house and it rusted away beyond repair. Some guys on here or a collector would almost kill for that hood and shaker scoop....LOL. It was a factory built race car Gene and myself ordered without any options or sound deadner. Frank is and has always been a great guy. I used to travel with Dickie Estivez and his brother in law Alfred when they raced the 428 CJ's and I was doing their cylinder heads. Later with Jim Morgan. Knew Roy and Mary very well when he worked at Speed Unlimited. I think Mary is now living in Cobb Island after Roys passing. Genes 271 HP Mustang was a bronze brown. I dont remember what name color Ford call it but he had some sponsorship from a Martin Ford in Mongomery county. Used to flat tow it. Later he had a 428 1969 Ford Fairlane almost the same color with the "Box top" roof line. Then the Callenger last. If some on here get bored with our BSing you can always email on here or by my email at zorascar@comcast.net I didnt mean to hi jack the thread. Thanks again for reminding me about Bill Carnes. Made me remember a lot of stuff from the stone age I hadnt thought about for years. It was because of Todd and Larry that I got to work for IHRA back in around 72.
Terry

[SuperStockDodge]

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Who's teching these cars? I cannot believe that the real Stock/SS techmen would let stuff like this slide unless they are being overridden by their superiors.

I bet cowl hoods will start slipping by on '66 Chevy II's soon as well...Oh well, it probably wouldn't be any performance gain??? May be just as easy to run hood pins and leave the clip 3 inches above the hood, so it's getting more air down track in that fashion. That seems to be over looked as well...

[Gary Smith]

Originally Posted by dlux

Well everyone, thanks for noticing the hood on my Comet. I'll give you guys the short version of a long story that started about three years ago. Beside my 1964 289CI, 210HP/220HP Mercury Cyclone K Code Comet, I have a 1964 427CI, Mercury Cyclone K Code Comet that I asked NHRA to approve like they did for the 427 Thunderbolt Fairlanes for Stock. I did alot of research about Comets over a two year span to get the 427 approved by NHRA. During that time I guess I became a Comet Expert.
NHRA will not approve the 427 and if I pushed it more it would have to be decided in a court of law. I think we have a good chance to win or NHRA would have to make some combinations being run today also not legal. I don't want the latter so we laid off.
The hood was questioned at Englishtown last year and I gave NHRA some of the documentation. After that I raced several points meets, Bristol and Indy and did not get one comment from any of the Top three tech including one from "Headquarters".
The only comment was a threat that if I kept pushing for the 427 Comet the hood could be illegal.
The fact of the matter is the hood was an option available late in the 1964 model year on only Mercury Comet Cyclones that were K code with a 210HP, 225HP, and a 271HP.
For your information I have seen no performance gain from the hood.
If anyone wants to see some of the documentation I'll be glad to show some.
Thanks for the comments on the paint job and God Bless America and you.
D Lux

Thanks Dick for clearing that up, and PLEASE, no offense to you was intended. Some folks here feel I fell of the turnip truck just because I'm not racing right now, but I've been involved in the battle and around long enough to know how ugly the 289 fight once was....when dad fought Cloy Fitzgerald in '76 for 210 in early '65 A code 2+2 (ours has factory date code 8/64, came with 5 bolt bellhousing). Got shot down 3 times and gave up, went bracket racing. Then I noticed Huffman running that same combo in Div 7....the same deal dad, Charlie Hoffman, and Greg Foreman fought for. It's just upsetting to see how lax the rules have gotten, wondering what else we could get away with.

[Alex Denysenko]

ideed the hood was a option on the 1964 Comet Cyclone
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT DICK'S HOOD IS NOT FUNCTIONAL ANYWAY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE HUB-BUB IS ALL ABOUT? AS I RECALL THEY WERE ONLY FUNCTIONAL ON THE 427 A/FX OR WEBER EQUIPPED 289 B?FX CARS.
SHOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THEN THE SCRAMBLER WANNA BEE NASH CAN FROM LAST YEAR

[Alex Denysenko]

Originally Posted by tommy d

a "k" code in a mercury is not the same as a "k" in a ford.

correct

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko

ideed the hood was a option on the 1964 Comet Cyclone
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT DICK'S HOOD IS NOT FUNCTIONAL ANYWAY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE HUB-BUB IS ALL ABOUT? AS I RECALL THEY WERE ONLY FUNCTIONAL ON THE 427 A/FX OR WEBER EQUIPPED 289 B?FX CARS.
SHOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THEN THE SCRAMBLER WANNA BEE NASH CAN FROM LAST YEAR

Right on that Alex.The scoop was non functional,just a big old wind catcher.The car seems to have disappeared.

[qwiked]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Its hard to read the class on the windshield in the picture posted by Mark but if its SS/M then the engine is the factory 289/210 HP combo. That hood for that combo is BOGUS except some tech guy allowed it like so many other BS deals over the past several years within NHRA. Good eye Mark. You should work tech for NHRA.

Yac would never work for the "enemy"