D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes - Page 8

BLIND MULE · 01-19-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stude

Not sure I'd want to run this series, but if I did , and as I read NOS is legal, how can you run juice without a timer? And....in my case it's integral with my dely box.

Drake

Pretty simple.
Option (A) poll to poll
Option (B) A thumb controlled button
Option (C) a limit (micro) switch on the shifter to either leave on the jug and cut off when it shifts or vice versa.
Option (D) be really good at hiding stuff in unobvious places

Chad Rhodes · 01-19-2011, 12:13 PM

they should just make these index classes really simple

Index A: Avis Rent-a-Car Chevy Impala

Index B: Enterprise Rent-a-car PT Cruiser

Index C: Hertz V6 Mustang

Extreme Index D: Hertz C6 Corvette Convertible

Make everyone drive them to the lanes then randomly swap cars before first round,

Makes about as much sense

X-TECH MAN · 01-19-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chad rhodes

they should just make these index classes really simple

index a: Avis rent-a-car chevy impala

index b: Enterprise rent-a-car pt cruiser

index c: Hertz v6 mustang

extreme index d: Hertz c6 corvette convertible

make everyone drive them to the lanes then randomly swap cars before first round,

makes about as much sense

lol.........................

Ed Wright · 01-19-2011, 12:48 PM

Why in the world allow nitrous? Just more chances of oil downs.

John Kelley · 01-19-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blind mule

pretty simple.
Option (a) poll to poll

poll to poll ???????
What poll ?????
I could understand pole to pole.....:-)

X-TECH MAN · 01-19-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Why in the world allow nitrous? Just more chances of oil downs.

Its for guys who dont know how to make a car run. It did bring in a lot of work when I was doing cylinder heads as most would cook or blow up something.....LOL.

Hemiparts · 01-19-2011, 01:48 PM

I don't see why everyone is so upset about this. We should use this as a chance to get the "TV Junkies" to the track and introduce them to wheels-up SS/Stk racing and heads-up door to door .90 class racing. Maybe they'll get there and see theres more to drag racing then a bald guy standing in the middle of track flapping his arms like a bird.You're not getting any exposure any other way to bring in new fans, so i say make the best of it. IMO

Chris

BLIND MULE · 01-19-2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Kelley

poll to poll ???????
What poll ?????
I could understand pole to pole.....:-)

DOH!!!!!
Was in a hurry. I had spell check just not stupid check.

Alan Roehrich · 01-19-2011, 02:17 PM

NHRA already has 10 classes at LODRS races they do a terrible job of promoting, paying, and supporting. Now they want to add more.

I'll never understand why it is people think adding something "new" is going to change things.

I have no problem with anyone having a time and a place to race. But it can't be the same place and the same time for eveyone.

You cannot be everything to everybody. The further you dilute anything, the less desirable it becomes. The more things you put into a mix, the less attractive that mix becomes. If you have a great pot of soup, and a line of customers waiting to be seated, a sure way to ruin that is to water down the soup and add more ingredients. Because you're going to make the soup less delicious for more customers you already have, and you're not going to make it tasty enough to draw more customers to replace them, not that many people are excited about soup to begin with.

The vast majority of the time, adding a new "next great thing" in the motorsports world serves only to drive off part of the original hard core fan base and participants. Then when the "new" wears off, that huge group of fans they were hoping to draw, that half the time didn't even show up, is already off looking for that new "next big thing". And the old hardcore fans and participants are gone, most never to return. They get a short term boost that is never as big as predicted, followed by a big crash that leaves things worse off than they were. It then becomes a never ending circle of trying to find that "next great thing" to replace the last "next great thing" just to keep things afloat, until there's nothing left but an empty shell of what once was, that is in a constant struggle to survive.

It's been said over and over, time after time, they need to promote what they have, and take care of what they have. Two things they refuse to do.

A solid rule of business has always been "it costs up to ten time as much to draw a new customer as it does to keep a current customer". Another has always been "the best advertisement you can have is a happy customer". As long as NHRA, and maybe to a lesser extent IHRA, continue to ignore those two rules, things will continue to get worse.

pbaileyrp · 01-19-2011, 03:10 PM

I think this is a way that Rich S down in D2 is trying to think outside the box. Index racing is growing throughout the country. The NHRA has a division that needs some progressive thinking. I think the idea here is to bolster D2 car counts while helping the Unleashed series grow at the same time. There are already 2 races in D2 for the Unleashed series.Try it you might like it. Give it a chance....all the cliche's. Go to a few races with this format before you kill it. His job is to make D2 grow with more tracks,programs,etc.

01-19-2011, 12:13 PM	#72
Chad Rhodes VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL Posts: 2,375 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes they should just make these index classes really simple Index A: Avis Rent-a-Car Chevy Impala Index B: Enterprise Rent-a-car PT Cruiser Index C: Hertz V6 Mustang Extreme Index D: Hertz C6 Corvette Convertible Make everyone drive them to the lanes then randomly swap cars before first round, Makes about as much sense __________________ Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA

01-19-2011, 12:48 PM	#74
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes Why in the world allow nitrous? Just more chances of oil downs. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

01-19-2011, 01:48 PM	#77
Hemiparts Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Raleigh, N.C Posts: 212 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes I don't see why everyone is so upset about this. We should use this as a chance to get the "TV Junkies" to the track and introduce them to wheels-up SS/Stk racing and heads-up door to door .90 class racing. Maybe they'll get there and see theres more to drag racing then a bald guy standing in the middle of track flapping his arms like a bird.You're not getting any exposure any other way to bring in new fans, so i say make the best of it. IMO Chris

01-19-2011, 02:17 PM	#79
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,114 Likes: 1,572 Liked 1,827 Times in 414 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes NHRA already has 10 classes at LODRS races they do a terrible job of promoting, paying, and supporting. Now they want to add more. I'll never understand why it is people think adding something "new" is going to change things. I have no problem with anyone having a time and a place to race. But it can't be the same place and the same time for eveyone. You cannot be everything to everybody. The further you dilute anything, the less desirable it becomes. The more things you put into a mix, the less attractive that mix becomes. If you have a great pot of soup, and a line of customers waiting to be seated, a sure way to ruin that is to water down the soup and add more ingredients. Because you're going to make the soup less delicious for more customers you already have, and you're not going to make it tasty enough to draw more customers to replace them, not that many people are excited about soup to begin with. The vast majority of the time, adding a new "next great thing" in the motorsports world serves only to drive off part of the original hard core fan base and participants. Then when the "new" wears off, that huge group of fans they were hoping to draw, that half the time didn't even show up, is already off looking for that new "next big thing". And the old hardcore fans and participants are gone, most never to return. They get a short term boost that is never as big as predicted, followed by a big crash that leaves things worse off than they were. It then becomes a never ending circle of trying to find that "next great thing" to replace the last "next great thing" just to keep things afloat, until there's nothing left but an empty shell of what once was, that is in a constant struggle to survive. It's been said over and over, time after time, they need to promote what they have, and take care of what they have. Two things they refuse to do. A solid rule of business has always been "it costs up to ten time as much to draw a new customer as it does to keep a current customer". Another has always been "the best advertisement you can have is a happy customer". As long as NHRA, and maybe to a lesser extent IHRA, continue to ignore those two rules, things will continue to get worse. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

01-19-2011, 03:10 PM	#80
pbaileyrp Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes I think this is a way that Rich S down in D2 is trying to think outside the box. Index racing is growing throughout the country. The NHRA has a division that needs some progressive thinking. I think the idea here is to bolster D2 car counts while helping the Unleashed series grow at the same time. There are already 2 races in D2 for the Unleashed series.Try it you might like it. Give it a chance....all the cliche's. Go to a few races with this format before you kill it. His job is to make D2 grow with more tracks,programs,etc.