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[Dion Hildebrandt]

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In the mean time, I'm fretting over the fact that there's only 22cars in Stock Elim. this weekend in Fallon, Nv., and I'm not able to be up there in it (for budget & time off from work restrictions). I'd be willing to bet some bucks that Div. 6's holding a divisional the same wknd had something to do with the reason both Stock/Super Stock car counts are much lower than they would be if those races weren't contested the same wknd., when they're within 800 miles from each other (for one), and Boise, Id. is actually closer to Fallon, than it is to Spokane, Wa.??? Again, my .02 worth[/QUOTE]

i read this post and felt it neccesary to respond, the car count in spokane only has 2 div 7 cars on the q-sheet out of 40 in stock and 1 div 7 out of 17 in super stock. all the rest are div 6, my point being maybe it is a low count just because it is a low count, look at the S/S count in spokane as well.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Dion Hildebrandt

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In the mean time, I'm fretting over the fact that there's only 22cars in Stock Elim. this weekend in Fallon, Nv., and I'm not able to be up there in it (for budget & time off from work restrictions). I'd be willing to bet some bucks that Div. 6's holding a divisional the same wknd had something to do with the reason both Stock/Super Stock car counts are much lower than they would be if those races weren't contested the same wknd., when they're within 800 miles from each other (for one), and Boise, Id. is actually closer to Fallon, than it is to Spokane, Wa.??? Again, my .02 worth

i read this post and felt it neccesary to respond, the car count in spokane only has 2 div 7 cars on the q-sheet out of 40 in stock and 1 div 7 out of 17 in super stock. all the rest are div 6, my point being maybe it is a low count just because it is a low count, look at the S/S count in spokane as well.[/QUOTE]

Dion,

Not only did I look at the S/S count at Spokane as well, I also looked at last years entries for both races, and my point was made by the fact that 3 S/S racers, and 4 stockers were at last years Fallon Div 7 race. Since Div 6 waited a weekend to hold their Kent, Wa. divisional, they had Jimmy DeFrank out there with both his S/S & Stocker cars, plus 3 other div 7 racers made the trek up to Kent, which helped both divisions with the added revenues from their neighbors racers. Yes their car counts were small, but they could've been larger if the brain trust's from both divisions didn't schedule those two races the same weekend. That would be like div 4 scheduling a race in Ennis, Tx. the same weekend that div 3 would hold a divisional in Kentucky, with numerous racers living in Tennessee...div 4's loss would be div 3's gain (when both could gain if the races were held one wknd after the other...not the same one?)!

[Dion Hildebrandt]

i agree with the competing raceday schedules being a problem, but if there is something that could be done about it why isnt there? like yourself i couldnt make my div race, mine was due to mechanical failure on the way though. out of div racing is going to happen like it or not, the attendance of competitors is up to you and me and every other racer out there to increase not complain about it. sorry about the highjack

[treessavoy]

Doesn't the "HRA's" look at this problem as the "first is worse" foul? This would enable them to justify the double red light problem.

Just playin' devil's advocate...don't start yellin' at me.....lol!

A look at my race log showed me that most of my red lights came when I was racing a slower car and had to leave second.

Jim R

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Dion Hildebrandt

i agree with the competing raceday schedules being a problem, but if there is something that could be done about it why isnt there? like yourself i couldnt make my div race, mine was due to mechanical failure on the way though. out of div racing is going to happen like it or not, the attendance of competitors is up to you and me and every other racer out there to increase not complain about it. sorry about the highjack

Bummer about the mechanical failure Dion . Hopefully it was corrected so that your next race you'll be able to attend? I wish you well in that...due to slow business at my work, I'm hoping that I'll somehow be able to race Bakersfield, & Vegas this fall, but I'm not holding my breath...I'll be cheering for you and all of my racing buds throughout this great country of ours!!!

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by treessavoy

Doesn't the "HRA's" look at this problem as the "first is worse" foul? This would enable them to justify the double red light problem.

Just playin' devil's advocate...don't start yellin' at me.....lol!

A look at my race log showed me that most of my red lights came when I was racing a slower car and had to leave second.

Jim R

I won't yell at you Jim, because anybody that races a Savoy is cool with me (I wish I could afford one to race myself, but my budget and the challenge of trying to do things that no-one else has done before says Z24/fwd/slower roller (i.e. being the first nat/div winning fwd Stock Eliminator racer this century, then being able to repeat the feat--thus being the first to do so, finishing in the top ten in div/nat points, and qualifying for/winning the Jeg's All Stars).

The reason I felt that you redlighted was because the driver of the other car may have just wanted a green light, and was hoping you'd have a miscue (which in my experience the odds of that happening are 20/80---likely/unlikely). With that thought in mind, once the first leaver sees that your light is green, he/she has to hope that their light was better, and that they can do what we watched Greg Luneack do yesterday in his Jegs All Stars Final (race the finish line better from ahead than you from behind), so as to cross the line first w/o breaking out, or second and hope that they pushed you too quick...thus giving them the win. I can think of five racers that are/were really good at that:

1. Jody Lang

2. Tibor Kadar

3. Lee Zane

4. Peter Biondo

5. Lane Weber

Like them, I was really good at that way back in the late 70's & early 80's, and have had occasional moments since, thus it can be done, but it's more challenging being the chasee than the chaser. That's why I call our version of drag racing "High Speed Chess", and also why I thought it was cool that Dan Fletchers Camaro was originally called "Checkmate"!!! For that matter even Dan "The Man" Fletcher with that car had the Hemi cars and the other big block entries chasing him as well, and he mastered it too!!!

[Dion Hildebrandt]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Bummer about the mechanical failure Dion . Hopefully it was corrected so that your next race you'll be able to attend? I wish you well in that...due to slow business at my work, I'm hoping that I'll somehow be able to race Bakersfield, & Vegas this fall, but I'm not holding my breath...I'll be cheering for you and all of my racing buds throughout this great country of ours!!!

next race was to be seattle but the truck wont be ready in time ,so now it will be the edmonton ihra national. should be a great time , hopefully biz picks up its 'work to live not live to work' .