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Old 09-05-2008, 03:35 PM   #1
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9.17 is pretty damn stout, this maybe the first GT/AA into the eights in the right conditions. I sure would love to see it happen at a non factored track.
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Old 09-05-2008, 05:18 PM   #2
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Well it looks like their getting the power to the ground............many teams have the potential to be the first in the eights but team Grossi is a favorite now as well. How many runs on that new combo?....roughly maybe 12 total and cooler weather is on the way......should get interesting in the GT/AA "race to the eights"
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Old 09-05-2008, 05:45 PM   #3
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I'm actually very suprised that a GT/AA car hasn't been in the 8's yet, with as many high budget "pocket rocket" cars as there are in the class. I'm surprised its taken this long for it to even get close to it actually happening. I remember a few years back, most thought that one of the GT/AA cars, especially Fogle was on the verge of being the first GT car in the 8's. It seems that they kinda stalled out a bit. Its been a year and half since Shaun Leblanc went an 8.97 at Belle Rose, with a 428 CJ and a "big" car. And it only REALLY counts if you put the number on the boards.
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At Indy the car looked a little lazy off the starting line, but I think the horse power is there. When that car gets sorted out and is turning some good 60 foot times it should be a rocket Don Jackson
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Old 09-05-2008, 05:54 PM   #5
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That 350 combo of the Fogle's has been given a good bit of horsepower in the last year or so. I think they were very close to running in the eights or may possibly have before the engine got "hit" Don Jackson
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That 350 combo of the Fogle's has been given a good bit of horsepower in the last year or so. I think they were very close to running in the eights or may possibly have before the engine got "hit" Don Jackson
you are absolutely correct. Many guys have flogged the same combo to death. Now Grossi, Bo Kenny and others are exploring new options. Things should get real fast really quick. I'm just suprised that people haven't gotten creative with the combos before now
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Old 09-05-2008, 06:05 PM   #7
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I don't think you're going to find too many people trying for the "eights" because of the 1.40 under penalty on Monday.
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Sean,

That is the problem isn't it.........the person who get's close to the eights has to be sure they can get "well into" into the eights at a specific time. If they will get close but don't quite make it the combo will be hit to the point where it might be too hard to achieve again..............kind of sounds like a one shot one time deal for a specific combo.

Getting into the eights surely will cost your combo..........

We'll see..........
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:00 PM   #9
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Getting creative with new combinations isn't the problem. The problem is the inadequate factoring methods used to rate these combos.

Any competent engine designer/builder can calculate within 1-2% how much power an engine can make with the data we have.

Why then is it such a suprize how fast these combos can go? Grossi's big block, Wigle's 460, the LS1. All under-factored from the start.

Lets get into the 21st century and factor these engines correctly in the first place, then let the best man win.
....and put the poor over-factored 300 motor back where it belongs.

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Old 09-05-2008, 07:22 PM   #10
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Hey FJ,
Colin Wigle is running a 429 rated at 371, not the 460 rated at 300. He is the first guy to even attempt to run that engine in probably 20 years in S/S. 700+ lbs of Dearborn iron sitting in that unique Mustang. No aftermarket heads or anything like some of the combos have. I think he is doing very well for a brand new combination!
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