Challenger H/P rating

rx dealer · 03-11-2009, 04:26 PM

6.1L Hemi 385 Horsepower

5.7L Hemi 305 Horsepower

5.9 mag. 275 Horsepower

Cobra Jet got some compitition form the 6.1... Challenger 6.1L Hemi 3250 lb. in A stock...CJ Mustang 3570 lb. in A stock...Luke

John Warehime · 03-11-2009, 04:38 PM

Is the 6.1 the 392 Hemi? I passed a new orange Challenger on the beltway this afternoon, and the tags said "RELIVN". LOL!!!

chlngr73 · 03-11-2009, 04:44 PM

CAN'T WAIT!!!! Let the games begin.........

David Buckner STK 4772

Jeff Lee · 03-11-2009, 04:53 PM

That seems like reasonable numbers. The 5.7L Hemi in a 2004 or 2007 Magnum or Charger is NHRA rated at 345HP, and the 6.1L Hemi in the same vehicles are listed as "ESI" - Engine Specs Incomplete.
The 5.9L Magnum Dakota / Ram engine was last used in the 1998 model year I believe and the 275 HP rating is approximately the same as those older Dakota or Ram trucks.
At 385 HP I believe the CJ500 Mustangs will have to "get out of second gear" (old Rambler song) to keep up with the Challenger 6.1L.

Mr. Warehime,
A 392 CID is approximately a 6.4L and is not what is supplied with the Challenger Drag-Pack.

Jeremy · 03-11-2009, 05:24 PM

Don't know about the Hemi's but the 360 is about 75 horse power below what it should.
Jerry

Lambertcars · 03-11-2009, 05:35 PM

About all the Mopars in IHRA Crate Motor Stock are below what they should be.

Allen Lambert

bill dedman · 03-11-2009, 06:50 PM

In reponse to the horsepower factor numbers released for the 360 Magnum motor in the new Challengers, Jeremy said, "Don't know about the Hemi's but the 360 is about 75 horse power below what it should." sic.

Wondering about what kind of engine specs could have elicited such a remark, I decided to go into the NHRA "Engine Blueprint specs" page and see just how this engine stacks up against the SBC motors and Ford Clevelands.

It's not there.

No specs are available from the NHRA website for this motor. At least, I can't seem to find them.

I have not seen any specs ANYWHERE for any of these new factory "Challenger" motors. To assume that it's just going to be an (IHRA) "crate motor" is assuming too much, I would think. Where are the specs for this engine, and how can we access them? Anyone know?

And, if they are not available yet, how can ANYONE think that the factor is wrong, if they don't have access to the mechanical specs that determine that factor?

I'm confused....

Bill

Stang_Bang · 03-11-2009, 07:01 PM

At 385 HP I believe the CJ500 Mustangs will have to "get out of second gear" (old Rambler song) to keep up with the Challenger 6.1L.

Then I think they need to hit that thing already if the cobra JET is not going to be able to keep up with it!! I mean come on the cobra JET is so horribly factored how can ANYTHING outrun it. I think the whole problem with the CJ is the badges it wears!!! R.J.

thomas sheehan · 03-11-2009, 07:32 PM

Are the ratings listed in the first post for stock or S/S ??? (or both?)

Tom

Stang_Bang · 03-11-2009, 07:39 PM

BTW has anyone seen this? Is that a Stocker Motor??

http://www.evansvillechrysler.com/ch...challenger_top

03-11-2009, 04:26 PM	#1
rx dealer Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lake Orion, Michigan Posts: 337 Likes: 12 Liked 53 Times in 13 Posts	Challenger H/P rating 6.1L Hemi 385 Horsepower 5.7L Hemi 305 Horsepower 5.9 mag. 275 Horsepower Cobra Jet got some compitition form the 6.1... Challenger 6.1L Hemi 3250 lb. in A stock...CJ Mustang 3570 lb. in A stock...Luke Last edited by rx dealer; 03-11-2009 at 04:30 PM.

03-11-2009, 04:38 PM	#2
John Warehime Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 291 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Challenger H/P rating Is the 6.1 the 392 Hemi? I passed a new orange Challenger on the beltway this afternoon, and the tags said "RELIVN". LOL!!!

03-11-2009, 04:44 PM	#3
chlngr73 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 131 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating CAN'T WAIT!!!! Let the games begin......... David Buckner STK 4772

03-11-2009, 04:53 PM	#4
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating That seems like reasonable numbers. The 5.7L Hemi in a 2004 or 2007 Magnum or Charger is NHRA rated at 345HP, and the 6.1L Hemi in the same vehicles are listed as "ESI" - Engine Specs Incomplete. The 5.9L Magnum Dakota / Ram engine was last used in the 1998 model year I believe and the 275 HP rating is approximately the same as those older Dakota or Ram trucks. At 385 HP I believe the CJ500 Mustangs will have to "get out of second gear" (old Rambler song) to keep up with the Challenger 6.1L. Mr. Warehime, A 392 CID is approximately a 6.4L and is not what is supplied with the Challenger Drag-Pack. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

03-11-2009, 05:24 PM	#5
Jeremy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 95 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Challenger H/P rating Don't know about the Hemi's but the 360 is about 75 horse power below what it should. Jerry Last edited by Jeremy; 03-11-2009 at 05:28 PM. Reason: thought

03-11-2009, 05:35 PM	#6
Lambertcars Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Johns Island SC Posts: 114 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Challenger H/P rating About all the Mopars in IHRA Crate Motor Stock are below what they should be. Allen Lambert

03-11-2009, 06:50 PM	#7
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating In reponse to the horsepower factor numbers released for the 360 Magnum motor in the new Challengers, Jeremy said, "Don't know about the Hemi's but the 360 is about 75 horse power below what it should." sic. Wondering about what kind of engine specs could have elicited such a remark, I decided to go into the NHRA "Engine Blueprint specs" page and see just how this engine stacks up against the SBC motors and Ford Clevelands. It's not there. No specs are available from the NHRA website for this motor. At least, I can't seem to find them. I have not seen any specs ANYWHERE for any of these new factory "Challenger" motors. To assume that it's just going to be an (IHRA) "crate motor" is assuming too much, I would think. Where are the specs for this engine, and how can we access them? Anyone know? And, if they are not available yet, how can ANYONE think that the factor is wrong, if they don't have access to the mechanical specs that determine that factor? I'm confused.... Bill __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 03-11-2009 at 10:21 PM.

03-11-2009, 07:01 PM	#8
Stang_Bang Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 30 Likes: 1 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Challenger H/P rating At 385 HP I believe the CJ500 Mustangs will have to "get out of second gear" (old Rambler song) to keep up with the Challenger 6.1L. Then I think they need to hit that thing already if the cobra JET is not going to be able to keep up with it!! I mean come on the cobra JET is so horribly factored how can ANYTHING outrun it. I think the whole problem with the CJ is the badges it wears!!! R.J.

03-11-2009, 07:32 PM	#9
thomas sheehan Photographer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,717 Likes: 24 Liked 75 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating Are the ratings listed in the first post for stock or S/S ??? (or both?) Tom __________________ Tom Sheehan SS GT/NA 1046

03-11-2009, 07:39 PM	#10
Stang_Bang Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 30 Likes: 1 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Challenger H/P rating BTW has anyone seen this? Is that a Stocker Motor?? http://www.evansvillechrysler.com/ch...challenger_top