NMCA Open Comp ????

Kevin Panzino · 08-23-2013, 07:24 PM

Ok, so my neighbor down the street is building one of those crazy 630+ cui twin turbo death rides for NMCA competition. He is telling me about how nice the events are and how well the racers are treated etc. So I spent some time on the NMCA website and determined pretty much the only class I can run my car in is "Open Comp". At first I just thought it was a catch all bracket class, and with a .500 pro tree.

But it says "The Open Comp class will run on an Open Comp format with a 1-tenth (1/10th) breakout"

What the heck does that mean ??

Furthermore there is reference to the following 'indexes' within open comp:
15.7 seconds, 15.0, 14.0, 13.0, 12.0, 11.0, 10.0, 9.0 and 8.5 seconds...

Are they saying you have to pick one of those indexes and then get the car to run that, or do you just dial the car??

I downloaded what appears to be the NMCA rulebook, and it does not clarify this... Looked at some youtube videos of open comp NMCA racing and it looks like folks are dialing ???

Anybody here know ???

I absolutely LOVE the idea of a .500 pro tree, and would like to find out quick, since there is a large NMCA race at Norwalk this weekend, and the very pleasant and sweet NMCA lady I spoke with on the phone said joining and entering is as simple as just showing up !!!

Kevin Panzino
GT/FA 1202

SSGT Mustang · 08-23-2013, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino

...one of those crazy 630+ cui twin turbo death rides....

That's hilarious!

7423 · 08-23-2013, 09:11 PM

Open Comp works like this...............
After a couple or three TT's, you subtract one tenth from your fastest TT and that is your dial for the entire eliminator. It can not be changed. So you are a "class racer", just race like one.........run all the TT's 100lbs heavy and bail it for rd 1.
Oh and BTW, NMCA has a normal .5 full tree bracket you can also play in.
NMCA is run by X NHRA people, they do a good job and run a good program.

Kevin Panzino · 08-24-2013, 10:06 AM

Ah, I see. So while you have to use a dial in that that is.1 faster than your fastest TT and it stays the same throughout eliminations, if you run .001 faster than that dial it is indeed a breakout, just like normal right??

Yes, regarding how they are ex NHRA folks that have a modern and sportsman oriented mindset, when the lady told me I can just show up at the track, join, certify, and they would give me all the car number stickers etc, and then just race, I commented back, 'wow how nice, much easier and less painful than NHRA"...

her exact reply was "That is precisely what we are doing, and its why we will win ".

SSGT Mustang · 08-24-2013, 12:38 PM

I looked at the NMCA website today, and couldn't believe how closely some of the classes compare to stock and super stock....only better (no breakout, not cost prohibitive, etc).

A stocker could easily fit into Mean Street, but have more flexibility to go fast. You'd need a different engine, but the rules are very stock(ish), and the cost wouldn't (necessarily) break the bank.

The Comp N/A class is a great choice for super stockers, though the price tag would be higher than converting a stocker to mean street. Nevertheless, it looks like a whole lotta fun, and at the end of the day, not a whole lot more money than building a competitive super stocker (if at all).

The structuring of the classes is excellent, too: One class, heads-up, pro tree, many choices/combinations to choose from, affordable (even to the younger generation), room to grow, exciting. Wow! What an amazing concept....

Now, if they could only sway class racers to make the switch and put together more regional events.....

Steve

CJ Perry · 08-24-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang

I looked at the NMRA website today, and couldn't believe how closely some of the classes compare to stock and super stock....only better (no breakout, not cost prohibitive, etc).

A stocker could easily fit into Mean Street, but have more flexibility to go fast. You'd need a different engine, but the rules are very stock(ish), and the cost wouldn't (necessarily) break the bank.

The Comp N/A class is a great choice for super stockers, though the price tag would be higher than converting a stocker to mean street. Nevertheless, it looks like a whole lotta fun, and at the end of the day, not a whole lot more money than building a competitive super stocker (if at all).

The structuring of the classes is excellent, too: One class, heads-up, pro tree, many choices/combinations to choose from, affordable (even to the younger generation), room to grow, exciting. Wow! What an amazing concept....

Now, if they could only sway class racers to make the switch and put together more regional events.....

Steve

Mean Street is a tough class. We tried it a couple years ago. I'd be willing to bet if we had the backing and time to do some testing different clmbos, we could be competive.

ALMACK · 08-24-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino

Ah, I see. So while you have to use a dial in that that is.1 faster than your fastest TT and it stays the same throughout eliminations, if you run .001 faster than that dial it is indeed a breakout, just like normal right??

Yes, regarding how they are ex NHRA folks that have a modern and sportsman oriented mindset, when the lady told me I can just show up at the track, join, certify, and they would give me all the car number stickers etc, and then just race, I commented back, 'wow how nice, much easier and less painful than NHRA"...

her exact reply was "That is precisely what we are doing, and its why we will win ".

I have ran the NMCA Bowling Green , KY race for the last 2 years with my Stocker.
Last year I ran the EFI Rumble class which is a "pick a posted index" style format.
It was fun but my biggest complaint was why it is the only index class with a .500 Pro tree start. The NMC and NSS classes are a .500 Sportsman tree starts.

This year I just entered 2 different bracket classes.

I just recieved a thank you letter in the mail from the NMCA 2 days ago for participating at their event. That was nice of them.

Now.....if only the NMCA would allow and create a "combo" Stock/Super Stock race to showcase our cars to their fans at their events......

Terry Knott · 08-24-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK

Now.....if only the NMCA would allow and create a "combo" Stock/Super Stock race to showcase our cars to their fans at their events......

About 5 yrs. ago some of their races did have a Stock/Superstock program. I had raced at 2 of them. I think Nitro Joe may of have helped put them together.

08-23-2013, 07:24 PM	#1
Kevin Panzino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 575 Likes: 298 Liked 747 Times in 136 Posts	NMCA Open Comp ???? Ok, so my neighbor down the street is building one of those crazy 630+ cui twin turbo death rides for NMCA competition. He is telling me about how nice the events are and how well the racers are treated etc. So I spent some time on the NMCA website and determined pretty much the only class I can run my car in is "Open Comp". At first I just thought it was a catch all bracket class, and with a .500 pro tree. But it says "The Open Comp class will run on an Open Comp format with a 1-tenth (1/10th) breakout" What the heck does that mean ?? Furthermore there is reference to the following 'indexes' within open comp: 15.7 seconds, 15.0, 14.0, 13.0, 12.0, 11.0, 10.0, 9.0 and 8.5 seconds... Are they saying you have to pick one of those indexes and then get the car to run that, or do you just dial the car?? I downloaded what appears to be the NMCA rulebook, and it does not clarify this... Looked at some youtube videos of open comp NMCA racing and it looks like folks are dialing ??? Anybody here know ??? I absolutely LOVE the idea of a .500 pro tree, and would like to find out quick, since there is a large NMCA race at Norwalk this weekend, and the very pleasant and sweet NMCA lady I spoke with on the phone said joining and entering is as simple as just showing up !!! Kevin Panzino GT/FA 1202

08-23-2013, 09:11 PM	#3
7423 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 639 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NMCA Open Comp ???? Open Comp works like this............... After a couple or three TT's, you subtract one tenth from your fastest TT and that is your dial for the entire eliminator. It can not be changed. So you are a "class racer", just race like one.........run all the TT's 100lbs heavy and bail it for rd 1. Oh and BTW, NMCA has a normal .5 full tree bracket you can also play in. NMCA is run by X NHRA people, they do a good job and run a good program.

08-24-2013, 10:06 AM	#4
Kevin Panzino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 575 Likes: 298 Liked 747 Times in 136 Posts	Re: NMCA Open Comp ???? Ah, I see. So while you have to use a dial in that that is.1 faster than your fastest TT and it stays the same throughout eliminations, if you run .001 faster than that dial it is indeed a breakout, just like normal right?? Yes, regarding how they are ex NHRA folks that have a modern and sportsman oriented mindset, when the lady told me I can just show up at the track, join, certify, and they would give me all the car number stickers etc, and then just race, I commented back, 'wow how nice, much easier and less painful than NHRA"... her exact reply was "That is precisely what we are doing, and its why we will win ".

08-24-2013, 12:38 PM	#5
SSGT Mustang Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 359 Likes: 35 Liked 204 Times in 54 Posts	Re: NMCA Open Comp ???? I looked at the NMCA website today, and couldn't believe how closely some of the classes compare to stock and super stock....only better (no breakout, not cost prohibitive, etc). A stocker could easily fit into Mean Street, but have more flexibility to go fast. You'd need a different engine, but the rules are very stock(ish), and the cost wouldn't (necessarily) break the bank. The Comp N/A class is a great choice for super stockers, though the price tag would be higher than converting a stocker to mean street. Nevertheless, it looks like a whole lotta fun, and at the end of the day, not a whole lot more money than building a competitive super stocker (if at all). The structuring of the classes is excellent, too: One class, heads-up, pro tree, many choices/combinations to choose from, affordable (even to the younger generation), room to grow, exciting. Wow! What an amazing concept.... Now, if they could only sway class racers to make the switch and put together more regional events..... Steve Last edited by SSGT Mustang; 08-24-2013 at 02:18 PM.