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Old 10-28-2013, 08:25 AM   #1
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Default 3/8" rod bolts vs RPM

I have a 408 bbc with 3/8" ARP rod bolts.

This motor is still new with only 8 runs on it.

I was shifting at 6000 rpm but it was still pulling.

I'm using a P/G with 4.57's and 14" x 32" slicks.

Can I get away with shifting in the 7000-7200 rpm range?

Thank you.
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:53 PM   #2
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Default Re: 3/8" rod bolts vs RPM

Bruce, no one can give you any guarantees, even the best rods and bolts break, ask me how I know.

Will your engine stay together for the occasional drag strip run shifting at 7000, probably yes.

Would I bracket race this combo competitively, turning that RPM with those bolts? NO
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:35 AM   #3
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Thanks Ed......
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I have a 408 bbc with 3/8" ARP rod bolts.

This motor is still new with only 8 runs on it.

I was shifting at 6000 rpm but it was still pulling.

I'm using a P/G with 4.57's and 14" x 32" slicks.

Can I get away with shifting in the 7000-7200 rpm range?

Thank you.
That would depend on: how much the pistons weigh, and how the rods were prepped, and how you slow down past the lights, and the big one if the rods were pressed, how much press was on the pin.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:40 AM   #5
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Default Re: 3/8" rod bolts vs RPM

The pistons are TRW L2287F, which I was told weighs a lot, they are full floating pistons and the rods were polished and balanced, if that matters.

As for slowing the car down after the line, I would take my foot off the pedal, slow down the car and then bump it into neutral, which is another question. I was told this is not a good idea to do with a P/G, agree or disagree?
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Default Re: 3/8" rod bolts vs RPM

Bruce, based on your parts selection, stock rods and trw replacement pistons, you obviously did not build this engine for competitive bracket racing. I stand by my advice.

As to neutraling the trans after the stripe, only if you want to put your very nice car into the wall and/or on it's roof!
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:57 AM   #7
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Default Re: 3/8" rod bolts vs RPM

Ed, your right, this was not a "true" race motor build, but I had to start somewhere and from our past conversations, I think you know why I had to use these parts.

Speaking of "him", this was the first time he came to a race and he had a blast and he is now asking when we are going back.

I hear your words and I'll keep it in gear from now on....we don't need anymore family issues!

I'd like to think this motor will be a learning step for what "not" to do on any future builds.

Thank you.
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Bruce, I do and understand.

You have a PM.
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The pistons are TRW L2287F, which I was told weighs a lot, they are full floating pistons and the rods were polished and balanced, if that matters.

As for slowing the car down after the line, I would take my foot off the pedal, slow down the car and then bump it into neutral, which is another question. I was told this is not a good idea to do with a P/G, agree or disagree?
I agree with Ed.
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Thank you for all your advice.....
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