302 ford intake advise

casrak7 · 10-31-2015, 04:55 AM

306 ci ford, fun little grudge race car. 2700 lbs, ported 351 heads, 11-1 compression, solid flat tappet. want to make peak power at 6800-6900 rpm. Id like to shift at 7400 and cross near 7600-7800. Shooting for 215-220 cfm through heads. Cam will be roughly 270/276@.050 .625/.574 on a 105 or 106. C4 trans, 5800-6000 converter. 5.13 gear, 28" tire, 2700-2750 race weight. Looking for high tens. Dual Plane or Vic Jr? If dual plane....which one? Thanks a lot!!! Any real world 302 combinations to help learn from?

1965 · 10-31-2015, 06:39 AM

No brainer victor jr

Mark Ugrich · 10-31-2015, 12:41 PM

I ran a similar combination for a few years.306 c.i. small block,2900 lb. car.A little smaller cam and 4 speed.I would also suggest the Victor Jr., However an Edelbrock F4-B would be a good choice for a dual plane.I used one of those with a 1" spacer before the Victor manifolds were available.

casrak7 · 11-01-2015, 03:33 AM

Mark.....just what was combination, if you dont mind....and what did it run? Thanks! Looking for real world examples here......I appreciate it.

Mark Ugrich · 11-01-2015, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by casrak7

Mark.....just what was combination, if you dont mind....and what did it run? Thanks! Looking for real world examples here......I appreciate it.

It was a 306 with 351 iron heads light port work. 2.78 four speed .Cam was a Crane flat tappet 242/252 @ .050.12.5 :1 compression.2960# with me in the car.5.43 gear and 14x32 tire.Went 11.68@ 115mph.

Rory McNeil · 11-01-2015, 05:55 PM

Have you considered a small stroker kit? I have a 331 cube SB Ford bracket engine I have ran in my 85 Mustang Stocker. Its a flat top piston pump gas deal, with a 570 lift solid flat tappet cam, out of the box AFR 185 heads, 650 Holley on a Victor Jr intake. With a Jerico 4 speed, 4.88 gears, 9x29 slicks, at 3050 pounds, it runs mid 10.s at 128 MPH (best of 10.29)shifting at 6800 RPM, hitting 7200 thru the traps. Dynoed at 485 HP, which is pushing it with a stock 5.0 block, after 5 years, we found several cracks in the main cap bolt holes, migrating down to the cam tunnel, so a new block in in order now, but it was together for 5 seasons.

casrak7 · 11-02-2015, 12:25 AM

I agree about the stroker. The only reason we are doing it is because we basically have all the parts now as it is.

Mark..............what did you shift at? Moroso calculator says you mustve crossed about 6600. AND what intake/carb?

Mark Ugrich · 11-02-2015, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by casrak7

I agree about the stroker. The only reason we are doing it is because we basically have all the parts now as it is.

Mark..............what did you shift at? Moroso calculator says you mustve crossed about 6600. AND what intake/carb?

I'd leave with a 7800 chip in the two step,shift @ 7000.Finish line rpm was around 6800-7000 if I remember correctly.That was with the F4-B and an 800 cfm holley.The motor didn't like dragging a big tire around.

casrak7 · 11-02-2015, 03:50 AM

Mark.....do you have any incrementals?

68Coupe · 11-02-2015, 12:19 PM

Rory
was wondering if you could give more specs on the cam you ran in your 331

10-31-2015, 04:55 AM	#1
casrak7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	302 ford intake advise 306 ci ford, fun little grudge race car. 2700 lbs, ported 351 heads, 11-1 compression, solid flat tappet. want to make peak power at 6800-6900 rpm. Id like to shift at 7400 and cross near 7600-7800. Shooting for 215-220 cfm through heads. Cam will be roughly 270/276@.050 .625/.574 on a 105 or 106. C4 trans, 5800-6000 converter. 5.13 gear, 28" tire, 2700-2750 race weight. Looking for high tens. Dual Plane or Vic Jr? If dual plane....which one? Thanks a lot!!! Any real world 302 combinations to help learn from?

10-31-2015, 06:39 AM	#2
1965 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Mechanicsville Va Posts: 31 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 302 ford intake advise No brainer victor jr

10-31-2015, 12:41 PM	#3
Mark Ugrich Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Auburndale,Florida Posts: 220 Likes: 29 Liked 71 Times in 38 Posts	Re: 302 ford intake advise I ran a similar combination for a few years.306 c.i. small block,2900 lb. car.A little smaller cam and 4 speed.I would also suggest the Victor Jr., However an Edelbrock F4-B would be a good choice for a dual plane.I used one of those with a 1" spacer before the Victor manifolds were available.

11-01-2015, 03:33 AM	#4
casrak7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 302 ford intake advise Mark.....just what was combination, if you dont mind....and what did it run? Thanks! Looking for real world examples here......I appreciate it.

11-01-2015, 05:55 PM	#6
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,103 Times in 301 Posts	Re: 302 ford intake advise Have you considered a small stroker kit? I have a 331 cube SB Ford bracket engine I have ran in my 85 Mustang Stocker. Its a flat top piston pump gas deal, with a 570 lift solid flat tappet cam, out of the box AFR 185 heads, 650 Holley on a Victor Jr intake. With a Jerico 4 speed, 4.88 gears, 9x29 slicks, at 3050 pounds, it runs mid 10.s at 128 MPH (best of 10.29)shifting at 6800 RPM, hitting 7200 thru the traps. Dynoed at 485 HP, which is pushing it with a stock 5.0 block, after 5 years, we found several cracks in the main cap bolt holes, migrating down to the cam tunnel, so a new block in in order now, but it was together for 5 seasons. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

11-02-2015, 12:25 AM	#7
casrak7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 302 ford intake advise I agree about the stroker. The only reason we are doing it is because we basically have all the parts now as it is. Mark..............what did you shift at? Moroso calculator says you mustve crossed about 6600. AND what intake/carb? Last edited by casrak7; 11-02-2015 at 12:31 AM.

11-02-2015, 03:50 AM	#9
casrak7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 302 ford intake advise Mark.....do you have any incrementals?

11-02-2015, 12:19 PM	#10
68Coupe Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 83 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 302 ford intake advise Rory was wondering if you could give more specs on the cam you ran in your 331