Bushing-Style Roller Lifters

henrys57wagon · 03-31-2016, 11:36 PM

Found this article:

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-st...roller-lifters

carl hinkson · 04-01-2016, 05:24 AM

I had a set of those in the shop sizing was not even close and the customer said he paid 1400.00

I have seen a couple sets of the Morel .937 lifters which is a bushed lifter sizing is spot on.

Not really sold on bushing lifters yet so far no problems with Morel .904 lifters to date.

Bushing lifters need really clean oil to live.

t.tosto · 04-01-2016, 09:56 AM

Carl, I would like to thank you for all the sharing of info you provide to this forum, greatly appreciated, Tony Tosto 3050 B/S.

Mike Taylor 3601 · 04-01-2016, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carl hinkson

I had a set of those in the shop sizing was not even close and the customer said he paid 1400.00

I have seen a couple sets of the Morel .937 lifters which is a bushed lifter sizing is spot on.

Not really sold on bushing lifters yet so far no problems with Morel .904 lifters to date.

Bushing lifters need really clean oil to live.

I have a hard time replacing a part that is on bearings,for one with a bushing,until I have problems with needle bearings,which I don't, then I might switch.
Mike Taylor 3601

carl hinkson · 04-01-2016, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601

I have a hard time replacing a part that is on bearings,for one with a bushing,until I have problems with needle bearings,which I don't, then I might switch.
Mike Taylor 3601

I am with you, With solid roller cams I always go to .904 lifter bigger wheel. bigger body, bigger axel, and less pressure angle which is a big plus.

CFMCNC · 04-03-2016, 12:04 AM

We have been in on the bushing instead of needle bearing lifters since and before release to consumers .WE have not seen a wide variation in sizing but have heard of it.A failed needle bearing can cause thousands of dollars of damage .The bushing is a great insurance policy as the rarity of failures do minimal damageWe have sold around 100 sets of EZRoll lifters .Some in service for 100s of runs as in 5-6-700+.Bill C.

carl hinkson · 04-03-2016, 08:49 AM

There are a lot of shops and guys who never measure lifters for size and so on the ISKY its taken 2 if not 3 sets to make up one set to get the sizing correct,

ISKY .842 lifter are never .842 but from what I have measured are .8405 to .841 and GM lifter bores are .844 and .003 to .0035 clearance is to much and lifter will not live in that condition, The Durathon will be .842 as this are made by Morel.

Go to yellow bullet and do a search as there are a a lot of threads on sizing problems with ISKY lifters.

I am one of those guys that measures every lifter for size before any work is done to the lifter bores.

On bushed lifters since they have been out I have gotten calls about failed bushing lifters no certain brand but they have failed.

So far I have gone to all .904 lifters on my builds and blocks I sell I machine alot of .904 lifter and to date whether its an ISKY or Morel I have seen zero problems.

I am have been machining a few blocks for the .937 Morel lifters and those are a bushed lifter and no problems as of yet but still to new to say anything.

One area people never look at is pressure angle
http://performancetechnician.com/pdf...a-Lifter-2.pdf

I machine alot of 55MM cam tunnels and I always go to a .904 or .937 lifter with a .810 or .850 wheel to slow wheel speed down less revolutions around the lobe which is key.

Good discussion on bushing lifters
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41853

03-31-2016, 11:36 PM	#1
henrys57wagon Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Carleton Place, On. Canada Posts: 107 Likes: 5 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bushing-Style Roller Lifters Found this article: http://www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-st...roller-lifters __________________ old 1608 stock racer

04-01-2016, 05:24 AM	#2
carl hinkson Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NORTHEAST Posts: 287 Likes: 1 Liked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Bushing-Style Roller Lifters I had a set of those in the shop sizing was not even close and the customer said he paid 1400.00 I have seen a couple sets of the Morel .937 lifters which is a bushed lifter sizing is spot on. Not really sold on bushing lifters yet so far no problems with Morel .904 lifters to date. Bushing lifters need really clean oil to live.

04-01-2016, 09:56 AM	#3
t.tosto Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 154 Likes: 116 Liked 62 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Bushing-Style Roller Lifters Carl, I would like to thank you for all the sharing of info you provide to this forum, greatly appreciated, Tony Tosto 3050 B/S.

04-03-2016, 12:04 AM	#6
CFMCNC Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Somwhere in NJ Posts: 72 Likes: 4 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Bushing-Style Roller Lifters We have been in on the bushing instead of needle bearing lifters since and before release to consumers .WE have not seen a wide variation in sizing but have heard of it.A failed needle bearing can cause thousands of dollars of damage .The bushing is a great insurance policy as the rarity of failures do minimal damageWe have sold around 100 sets of EZRoll lifters .Some in service for 100s of runs as in 5-6-700+.Bill C.

04-03-2016, 08:49 AM	#7
carl hinkson Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NORTHEAST Posts: 287 Likes: 1 Liked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Bushing-Style Roller Lifters There are a lot of shops and guys who never measure lifters for size and so on the ISKY its taken 2 if not 3 sets to make up one set to get the sizing correct, ISKY .842 lifter are never .842 but from what I have measured are .8405 to .841 and GM lifter bores are .844 and .003 to .0035 clearance is to much and lifter will not live in that condition, The Durathon will be .842 as this are made by Morel. Go to yellow bullet and do a search as there are a a lot of threads on sizing problems with ISKY lifters. I am one of those guys that measures every lifter for size before any work is done to the lifter bores. On bushed lifters since they have been out I have gotten calls about failed bushing lifters no certain brand but they have failed. So far I have gone to all .904 lifters on my builds and blocks I sell I machine alot of .904 lifter and to date whether its an ISKY or Morel I have seen zero problems. I am have been machining a few blocks for the .937 Morel lifters and those are a bushed lifter and no problems as of yet but still to new to say anything. One area people never look at is pressure angle http://performancetechnician.com/pdf...a-Lifter-2.pdf I machine alot of 55MM cam tunnels and I always go to a .904 or .937 lifter with a .810 or .850 wheel to slow wheel speed down less revolutions around the lobe which is key. Good discussion on bushing lifters http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41853