DOT info help

Jack McCarthy · 07-27-2018, 01:13 PM

id love someone to help me understand the DOT rules as i have an opportunity to tow a vehicle to/from exhibitions for a group. Simple dually and tagalong 26ft trailer total weight under 22,000 probably less.

Will be across the USA have bookings in NY, Nevada,La,Va already for 2019

ive read the HORROR stories from you guys so i would like to be informed as best as possible !!

thank you in advance for your help !!

captain

Philip Saran · 07-27-2018, 02:03 PM

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Dave Crysler · 07-27-2018, 02:10 PM

You may need to have a log book, if you want pm your phone # and I will try to explain.

Painter · 07-27-2018, 05:17 PM

Jack, call me, I have been thru all of this. Jeff helped me out, and I THINK that I have the answers. But when you run into Buford T on the side of the road there is nothing that will help until you get to court.

Lenny5160 · 07-28-2018, 01:18 AM

If the GVWR of the trailer is over 10,000 lbs, you technically need a Class A although on a 26' tandem axle I doubt you would be hassled.

Signage on the trailer will also be likely to garner more attention.

MR DERBY CITY · 07-29-2018, 07:31 PM

Captain, if either the GVWR of the dually or the trailer is over 10,000 lbs. you will need a CDL...you are hauling a vehicle up and down the highway and you are being compensated ....ie ....you are being paid to transport this vehicle....a vehicle that is not titled in your name.....As Painter pointed out, when Buford T Justice pulls you over the **** will hit the fan. After you play dumb and tell him you didn’t think that you needed a CDL you will need a FOLDER to put all the tickets in...He will park you until you locate a local driver with a CDL to drive your rig to the state line...Now, with all that being said....when you open the trailer door to show Buford T what you are hauling, there is the possibility he may drop to his knees and roll on the ground laughing his Azz off.......

JHeath · 07-29-2018, 07:41 PM

Has anyone ever weighed a 26' trailer ?

voltdr · 07-29-2018, 08:30 PM

It doesn't matter what it weighs, unless you reclassify it. The GVW is what they look at. The fact that you are being compensated for transporting this vehicle to and from events makes you commercial and all the rules apply. Log Book, or ELD, US DOT numbers, physical, drug card. same as OTR drivers. Limited driving time.............................................. .................................................. ....................

Dan

J&S Racing · 07-30-2018, 05:08 PM

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

If truck and trailer weigh 10,001+ a DOT # is required.

I'm not sure at what point you need a log book but if you do....... a ELD must be used unless the engine is 99 or older. There is also the short haul exemption. If you travel 100 air miles and return home every night no log needed. Then that has the rolling 30 exemption, this states you can travel outside the 100mi 8 days out of every 30 working days. Now I've asked 3 DOT officers if you can stay out on these 8 days but received 3 different answers.

There's also a motor sport exemption. Lol

My advice, do everything not to get stopped. Biggest thing I see guys getting pulled over for is traveling I'n the truck restricted lanes. This is even if your towing a open trailer. If you do get stopped, don't ever give DOT attitude!!! They will ruin your day quick!!

63corvette · 07-30-2018, 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=J&S Racing;568727]A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Not totally true.
If the vehicle is a personal vehicle titled in your name and registered RV and you own the entire contents personally you only need a class A or B depending on the vehicle being towed. Under 10,000 lbs Class B over 10,000 class A.
Called a Non Commercial CDL with no log book etc.
What I currently have.
My 2 Cents
Rick in TX

07-27-2018, 01:13 PM	#1
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,313 Likes: 27 Liked 440 Times in 111 Posts	DOT info help id love someone to help me understand the DOT rules as i have an opportunity to tow a vehicle to/from exhibitions for a group. Simple dually and tagalong 26ft trailer total weight under 22,000 probably less. Will be across the USA have bookings in NY, Nevada,La,Va already for 2019 ive read the HORROR stories from you guys so i would like to be informed as best as possible !! thank you in advance for your help !! captain __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

07-27-2018, 02:03 PM	#2
Philip Saran Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Parker, CO. Posts: 728 Likes: 163 Liked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: DOT info help Deleted __________________ Phil Saran Parker, Colorado Last edited by Philip Saran; 08-01-2018 at 12:38 PM.

07-27-2018, 02:10 PM	#3
Dave Crysler Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 120 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: DOT info help You may need to have a log book, if you want pm your phone # and I will try to explain.

07-27-2018, 05:17 PM	#4
Painter Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 227 Likes: 4 Liked 162 Times in 45 Posts	Re: DOT info help Jack, call me, I have been thru all of this. Jeff helped me out, and I THINK that I have the answers. But when you run into Buford T on the side of the road there is nothing that will help until you get to court.

07-28-2018, 01:18 AM	#5
Lenny5160 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Inver Grove Heights, MN Posts: 898 Likes: 604 Liked 431 Times in 224 Posts	Re: DOT info help If the GVWR of the trailer is over 10,000 lbs, you technically need a Class A although on a 26' tandem axle I doubt you would be hassled. Signage on the trailer will also be likely to garner more attention. __________________ S/ST 51 S/C 53

07-29-2018, 07:31 PM	#6
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,608 Likes: 1,068 Liked 7,783 Times in 1,495 Posts	Re: DOT info help Captain, if either the GVWR of the dually or the trailer is over 10,000 lbs. you will need a CDL...you are hauling a vehicle up and down the highway and you are being compensated ....ie ....you are being paid to transport this vehicle....a vehicle that is not titled in your name.....As Painter pointed out, when Buford T Justice pulls you over the **** will hit the fan. After you play dumb and tell him you didn’t think that you needed a CDL you will need a FOLDER to put all the tickets in...He will park you until you locate a local driver with a CDL to drive your rig to the state line...Now, with all that being said....when you open the trailer door to show Buford T what you are hauling, there is the possibility he may drop to his knees and roll on the ground laughing his Azz off.......

07-29-2018, 07:41 PM	#7
JHeath Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 786 Likes: 2,876 Liked 370 Times in 101 Posts	Re: DOT info help Has anyone ever weighed a 26' trailer ? __________________ Jerry Heath I/S '93 Cobra FS/J 2010 Mustang "Ebay CJ"

07-29-2018, 08:30 PM	#8
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 705 Likes: 77 Liked 97 Times in 50 Posts	Re: DOT info help It doesn't matter what it weighs, unless you reclassify it. The GVW is what they look at. The fact that you are being compensated for transporting this vehicle to and from events makes you commercial and all the rules apply. Log Book, or ELD, US DOT numbers, physical, drug card. same as OTR drivers. Limited driving time.............................................. .................................................. .................... Dan __________________ Dan Foley SC 4698

07-30-2018, 05:08 PM	#9
J&S Racing Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 283 Likes: 102 Liked 319 Times in 82 Posts	Re: DOT info help A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds. If truck and trailer weigh 10,001+ a DOT # is required. I'm not sure at what point you need a log book but if you do....... a ELD must be used unless the engine is 99 or older. There is also the short haul exemption. If you travel 100 air miles and return home every night no log needed. Then that has the rolling 30 exemption, this states you can travel outside the 100mi 8 days out of every 30 working days. Now I've asked 3 DOT officers if you can stay out on these 8 days but received 3 different answers. There's also a motor sport exemption. Lol My advice, do everything not to get stopped. Biggest thing I see guys getting pulled over for is traveling I'n the truck restricted lanes. This is even if your towing a open trailer. If you do get stopped, don't ever give DOT attitude!!! They will ruin your day quick!!

07-30-2018, 08:25 PM	#10
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: DOT info help [QUOTE=J&S Racing;568727]A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds. Not totally true. If the vehicle is a personal vehicle titled in your name and registered RV and you own the entire contents personally you only need a class A or B depending on the vehicle being towed. Under 10,000 lbs Class B over 10,000 class A. Called a Non Commercial CDL with no log book etc. What I currently have. My 2 Cents Rick in TX