225 1 bbl go to guy

House of Darts · 01-24-2019, 06:29 PM

I just picked up a 1974 Duster with a rebuilt /6. Looked at the guide and its 105/135, since 2005. Didn't think this was a viable combo. Anyone run one? How far under the W/ did it go?

Billy Nees · 01-24-2019, 07:08 PM

Well, smaller bore/longer stroke than my 230/140 chebby. Bigger cam, slightly smaller carb but it's a Holley. Less mechanical compression but (arguably)a better head.
I've gone pretty darned fast with my 230/140 and that's with a Powerglide.
I think that a Super Six is better.

House of Darts · 01-24-2019, 07:16 PM

I just checked and the 2 bbl get 9 HP more. Not a bad deal for some better weather consistency.Its hard to find reasonable priced low rust Mopars.

Phillip marvetz · 01-24-2019, 09:05 PM

It can run the index but it's a horrible combo.

Frank Castros · 01-24-2019, 09:37 PM

Didn't someone in D5 run a Super Six recently and with success?

Billy Nees · 01-25-2019, 08:48 AM

i don't know what it takes to change a 74 into a 73 but I would run it as a 73 318 @ 169 HP or see what it would take to get the 74 318 to 169!

Billy Nees · 01-25-2019, 08:55 AM

i just went to "old faithful" classracer.com and the 73/74 318 specs are EXACTLY the same. It SHOULD be as easy as a phone call to Pat C. to get the 74 to 169.
I repeat, SHOULD!

House of Darts · 01-25-2019, 09:25 AM

Shoulda, coulda, woulda, now that's a challenge. So looking at the same specs, there are (2) 318-2 HP ratings, 150 and 170. Looked at the internal specs and there is no difference that I can find, Typo? Same carb,cam compression....?

Curt Rees · 01-25-2019, 10:24 AM

I purchased Mike Jeffery's '80 Dodge Diplomat Super 6 powered V/SA 2 years ago. He had gone a second under with the car and held the record several times.

My best was has been -.97 under. The car is a consistent -.70/-.80 under. The car is NHRA rated at 144 HP.

Because of extenuating circumstances, I was unable able to make any divisional or national open races in 2018. Hopefully, that will change this year.

Thanks

#5458

Curt Rees

GTX JOHN · 02-01-2019, 08:43 PM

Phillip knows......He raced one for year. The 2 Brl. is MUCH better combo.

I think he set Nat'l record with 80 Aspen Wagon 225/2 Brl
that used to live at my shop some years ago.

01-24-2019, 06:29 PM	#1
House of Darts Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 346 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	225 1 bbl go to guy I just picked up a 1974 Duster with a rebuilt /6. Looked at the guide and its 105/135, since 2005. Didn't think this was a viable combo. Anyone run one? How far under the W/ did it go?

01-24-2019, 07:08 PM	#2
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,487 Likes: 3,588 Liked 7,685 Times in 1,732 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy Well, smaller bore/longer stroke than my 230/140 chebby. Bigger cam, slightly smaller carb but it's a Holley. Less mechanical compression but (arguably)a better head. I've gone pretty darned fast with my 230/140 and that's with a Powerglide. I think that a Super Six is better. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

01-24-2019, 07:16 PM	#3
House of Darts Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 346 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy I just checked and the 2 bbl get 9 HP more. Not a bad deal for some better weather consistency.Its hard to find reasonable priced low rust Mopars.

01-24-2019, 09:05 PM	#4
Phillip marvetz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lynden ,WA Posts: 820 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy It can run the index but it's a horrible combo. __________________ 2009 V/SA Record Holder

01-25-2019, 08:48 AM	#6
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,487 Likes: 3,588 Liked 7,685 Times in 1,732 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy i don't know what it takes to change a 74 into a 73 but I would run it as a 73 318 @ 169 HP or see what it would take to get the 74 318 to 169! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

01-24-2019, 09:37 PM	#5
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,962 Likes: 2,552 Liked 2,701 Times in 952 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy Didn't someone in D5 run a Super Six recently and with success?

01-25-2019, 08:55 AM	#7
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,487 Likes: 3,588 Liked 7,685 Times in 1,732 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy i just went to "old faithful" classracer.com and the 73/74 318 specs are EXACTLY the same. It SHOULD be as easy as a phone call to Pat C. to get the 74 to 169. I repeat, SHOULD! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

01-25-2019, 09:25 AM	#8
House of Darts Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 346 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy Shoulda, coulda, woulda, now that's a challenge. So looking at the same specs, there are (2) 318-2 HP ratings, 150 and 170. Looked at the internal specs and there is no difference that I can find, Typo? Same carb,cam compression....?

01-25-2019, 10:24 AM	#9
Curt Rees Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ft. Pierre, SD Posts: 355 Likes: 405 Liked 236 Times in 49 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy I purchased Mike Jeffery's '80 Dodge Diplomat Super 6 powered V/SA 2 years ago. He had gone a second under with the car and held the record several times. My best was has been -.97 under. The car is a consistent -.70/-.80 under. The car is NHRA rated at 144 HP. Because of extenuating circumstances, I was unable able to make any divisional or national open races in 2018. Hopefully, that will change this year. Thanks #5458 Curt Rees __________________ Curt Rees 5457 SS

02-01-2019, 08:43 PM	#10
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,732 Likes: 2,796 Liked 2,472 Times in 696 Posts	Re: 225 1 bbl go to guy Phillip knows......He raced one for year. The 2 Brl. is MUCH better combo. I think he set Nat'l record with 80 Aspen Wagon 225/2 Brl that used to live at my shop some years ago. __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock