Just talkin' here,

Billy Nees · 01-05-2020, 08:33 AM

and I would never hope to see this happen but what would Stock Eliminator be like if the NHRA decided to instate the "15 Year" rule again? To fill their Natl. Event fields with new cars.
What would Stock be like without all of the cars from the "Muscle Car" era?
Could this ever really happen?
How did the Stock Racers of 1972/73 feel when they were told that their Stockers are SSers now?

jmcarter · 01-05-2020, 09:11 AM

Scary prospect Billy but not beyond something NHRA might do as they slowly dwindle the quotas. If you compare quotas this year vs. just last year you can see the direction, cutting quotas for the fall Charlotte and Vegas races with the kind of facilities they have continues to befuddle me. With the Gators filling in two days with just Grade 8's might become the norm for more events since for some, chasing a Wally is the Holy Grail. It may very well become a Millionaire's Club. Another mystery to me is how Alan Reinhart so enthusiastically announces Class racing and the "old iron" and they even do "feature flyers" on classic muscle cars but are the "suits" even listening? But many of us could very well be told that we're only welcome in the index classes. Others will have to speak to how they felt back in 72/73 but I for one love seeing Lyn Smith and others running the 55's and others.

joe huestis · 01-05-2020, 10:21 AM

I began racing in ‘72 with my ‘57 Chevy 4 dr. wagon which was my first car. A friend of mine had a ‘57 sedan delivery less m&t I bought for $75. (the old “Hatch’s All American”)out of Peekskill, N.Y. Found I could only run it as a SS and sold it never doing anything with that car. The era of the Junior Stockers killed off. Purchased my ‘69 Camaro in ‘73 for $1300., converted it to the “ new stock eliminator” complete with those funky treaded M&H “slicks” which were now legal to run. As I recall those with treads were allowed up to 10 1/2 in width. 1960 and newer cars were only allowed and originally as each year passed, NHRA was going to drop a year so the following year only 1961 models and so on. That was squashed pretty quickly.

KRatcliff · 01-05-2020, 01:03 PM

My Firebird "identifies" as a 2015 Camaro.....or something like that.

CMcAllister · 01-05-2020, 01:50 PM

Pathetic the way NHRA has crapped on sportsman and class racers over the past 20 years. Purse is down, contingencies are down, tech is down, respect is down, only 60 cars allowed to come to a national event. But there are still just as many cars out there and people who want to race as ever. Just pathetic.

jmcarter · 01-05-2020, 03:01 PM

With the exception of Indy 60 is the high range, more are now 45, 50 and 55.

http://www.nhra.net/2020/images/NHRA..._NE_Quotas.pdf

Kyle, that’s plain funny; I don’t care who you are....but come to think of it I’ve been seeing more Stockers that “identify” as Super Stockers.

Dan Fahey · 01-05-2020, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CMcAllister

Pathetic the way NHRA has crapped on sportsman and class racers over the past 20 years. Purse is down, contingencies are down, tech is down, respect is down, only 60 cars allowed to come to a national event. But there are still just as many cars out there and people who want to race as ever. Just pathetic.

Warned you that if NHRA did not support CM and PS that it would systematically be doing the same to the rest of the Sport.

Had they been supportive there would be an IHRA and lot more affordable cars and people trying to compete.

NHRA wants to dominate the direction of Drag Racing and our voices are an irritant to them.

D

MR DERBY CITY · 01-05-2020, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Warned you that if NHRA did not support CM and PS that it would systematically be doing the same to the rest of the Sport.

Had they been supportive there would be an IHRA and lot more affordable cars and people trying to compete.

NHRA wants to dominate the direction of Drag Racing and our voices are an irritant to them.

D

Oh, OK ....it’s NHRA s fault that there is no IHRA ......Where is James Perrone when we need him ??

Rory McNeil · 01-06-2020, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Warned you that if NHRA did not support CM and PS that it would systematically be doing the same to the rest of the Sport.

Had they been supportive there would be an IHRA and lot more affordable cars and people trying to compete.

NHRA wants to dominate the direction of Drag Racing and our voices are an irritant to them.

D

Dan, you may just want to have your well water tested , just saying

Dan Fahey · 01-06-2020, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Dan, you may just want to have your well water tested , just saying

Our water is fine..!
Got the finest cleanest water called Chateau De Potomac.
One of the best water systems on the planet.
Far from the polluted disaster of Flint Michigan or Sulfur Water of Florida !

You guys still don’t get it...!
Go ahead shoot yourself in the foot !
Did you read your own comments?
Did you understand them?
What happens if NHRA decides on another 20 year rule?
It is not so far fetched.
What would you do then.....Bitch?

Having PS and CM means more racers can afford to participate.
It is simple arithmetic and the number one comments on these Bloggs.
It would draw more bracket racers that have abandoned Stock.
The market is there. SS has adopted the strategy to keep it alive.

More Class Racers also means more Political Pull !
Which means the powers to be have successfully kept us divided..
Then some of you sided with them ..bang bang their goes your foot!
How many complained that NHRA is not listening?
It was said a thousand times............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If NHRA wants to Divide the potential class structure.
It is simple... the business goes elsewhere.

Haven’t you noticed?
Such as grass roots drag racing going back to the street..!

What the non-gender pronoun is it you do not get?

D

01-05-2020, 08:33 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,481 Likes: 3,581 Liked 7,656 Times in 1,726 Posts	Just talkin' here, and I would never hope to see this happen but what would Stock Eliminator be like if the NHRA decided to instate the "15 Year" rule again? To fill their Natl. Event fields with new cars. What would Stock be like without all of the cars from the "Muscle Car" era? Could this ever really happen? How did the Stock Racers of 1972/73 feel when they were told that their Stockers are SSers now? __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

01-05-2020, 09:11 AM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,285 Likes: 2,339 Liked 3,142 Times in 963 Posts	Re: Just talkin' here, Scary prospect Billy but not beyond something NHRA might do as they slowly dwindle the quotas. If you compare quotas this year vs. just last year you can see the direction, cutting quotas for the fall Charlotte and Vegas races with the kind of facilities they have continues to befuddle me. With the Gators filling in two days with just Grade 8's might become the norm for more events since for some, chasing a Wally is the Holy Grail. It may very well become a Millionaire's Club. Another mystery to me is how Alan Reinhart so enthusiastically announces Class racing and the "old iron" and they even do "feature flyers" on classic muscle cars but are the "suits" even listening? But many of us could very well be told that we're only welcome in the index classes. Others will have to speak to how they felt back in 72/73 but I for one love seeing Lyn Smith and others running the 55's and others. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

01-05-2020, 10:21 AM	#3
joe huestis Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Youngsville, N.C. Posts: 622 Likes: 280 Liked 403 Times in 112 Posts	Re: Just talkin' here, I began racing in ‘72 with my ‘57 Chevy 4 dr. wagon which was my first car. A friend of mine had a ‘57 sedan delivery less m&t I bought for $75. (the old “Hatch’s All American”)out of Peekskill, N.Y. Found I could only run it as a SS and sold it never doing anything with that car. The era of the Junior Stockers killed off. Purchased my ‘69 Camaro in ‘73 for $1300., converted it to the “ new stock eliminator” complete with those funky treaded M&H “slicks” which were now legal to run. As I recall those with treads were allowed up to 10 1/2 in width. 1960 and newer cars were only allowed and originally as each year passed, NHRA was going to drop a year so the following year only 1961 models and so on. That was squashed pretty quickly. __________________ Joe Huestis "Annie's Song" Racing U/SA 2724 Youngsville, NC

01-05-2020, 01:03 PM	#4
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 763 Likes: 75 Liked 524 Times in 141 Posts	Re: Just talkin' here, My Firebird "identifies" as a 2015 Camaro.....or something like that.

01-05-2020, 01:50 PM	#5
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 603 Likes: 15 Liked 890 Times in 248 Posts	Re: Just talkin' here, Pathetic the way NHRA has crapped on sportsman and class racers over the past 20 years. Purse is down, contingencies are down, tech is down, respect is down, only 60 cars allowed to come to a national event. But there are still just as many cars out there and people who want to race as ever. Just pathetic.

01-05-2020, 03:01 PM	#6
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,285 Likes: 2,339 Liked 3,142 Times in 963 Posts	Re: Just talkin' here, With the exception of Indy 60 is the high range, more are now 45, 50 and 55. http://www.nhra.net/2020/images/NHRA..._NE_Quotas.pdf Kyle, that’s plain funny; I don’t care who you are....but come to think of it I’ve been seeing more Stockers that “identify” as Super Stockers. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table Last edited by jmcarter; 01-05-2020 at 03:13 PM.