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Old 10-27-2007, 12:24 PM   #1
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Default Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW!

Must be some pretty good air up there! That or everybody wants to be the last 1.200 or better under cars in the history books! Top 20 are -1.200 under. In fact, if NHRA absorbs SS into GT, some of these may go down as the fastest EVER !
Check out the GT/DA spread. Except for John Hennesey @ 9.89, the other 4 are only a few thousands apart @ 9.93 to 9.94. They are running SS class, right?

1 2093 GT/MA Bob Dennis, Shorter AL, '91 Calais 10.867 12.35 -1.483
2 7056 GT/AA Frank Grossi, Upland CA, '05 Sunfire 9.316 10.66 -1.344
3 6 SS/CS David Bogner, Kearney NE, '92 Daytona 9.598 10.92 -1.322
4 7026 GT/BA Dan Mason, San Clemente CA, '85 Camaro 9.501 10.81 -1.309
5 624 GT/FA Don Little, Westley CA, '70 Challenger 10.074 11.38 -1.306
6 723 GT/AA Carmeron Kallas, Bluffdale UT, '04 Cavalier 9.366 10.66 -1.294
7 5080 GT/HA Ted Romero, Denver CO, '98 Grand Am 10.349 11.63 -1.281
8 7474 SS/BS Justin Lamb, Henderson NV, '07 Cobalt 9.021 10.30 -1.279
9 78 SS/FA Darren Smith, Palmdale CA, '68 Dart 9.750 11.02 -1.270
10 5206 SS/MA Carroll Warling, Brighton CO, '74 Grand Am 11.183 12.45 -1.267
11 7375 GT/IA Ken Etter, Riverside CA, '93 Shadow 10.530 11.79 -1.260
12 7980 SS/FA Steve Wann, Modesto CA, '69 Barracuda 9.760 11.02 -1.260
13 79 SS/BS Mike Blackstone, Livermore CA, '90 Calais 9.052 10.30 -1.248
14 5441 SS/HA Gary McGlasson, Los Lunas NM, '69 Camaro 9.933 11.17 -1.237
15 6413 SS/AA Jon Percy, Pocatello ID, '64 Savoy 9.016 10.25 -1.234
16 5427 SS/EA James Weakland, Morrison CO, '68 Camaro 9.689 10.92 -1.231
17 765 SS/L Kip Martin, Phoenix AZ, '64 Mustang 10.616 11.84 -1.224
18 657 SS/CM Steve Polack, Enumclaw WA, '92 Camaro 8.978 10.20 -1.222
19 718 SS/FA Chuck Stubeck, Chatsworth CA, '69 Roadrunn 9.805 11.02 -1.215
20 721 SS/AH Rick Houser, Pasadena CA, '68 Barracuda 8.832 10.04 -1.208
21 75 GT/HA Wayne Taylor, Chino CA, '00 Sebring 10.432 11.63 -1.198
22 668 SS/GA Mike Pruss, Red Deer AB, '02 Firebird 9.928 11.12 -1.192
23 6565 SS/BM Terry Sherrill, Klamath Falls OR, '04 Cava 8.761 9.94 -1.179
24 715 GT/DA John Hennessay, Los Angeles CA, '86 Camaro 9.892 11.07 -1.178
25 5 GT/BA Tony DeFrank, Chatsworth CA, '07 Cobalt 9.634 10.81 -1.176
26 7568 SS/FA Bryan Broaddus, Yorba Linda CA, '71 Monte 9.845 11.02 -1.175
27 709 GT/AA Doug Broaddus, Anaheim Hills CA, '97 Fireb 9.485 10.66 -1.175
28 6777 SS/BS Rick Paton, Edmonton AB, '02 Camaro 9.125 10.30 -1.175
29 7724 SS/L Mark Tallent, Palmdale CA, '64 Mustang 10.671 11.84 -1.169
30 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.880 10.04 -1.160
31 4403 SS/JA Gary Emmons, Friendswood TX, '96 Firebird 10.421 11.58 -1.159
32 2900 SS/BM Mike Tueffel, Browns Summit NC, '98 Grand 8.784 9.94 -1.156
33 7607 SS/FA Jack Bystrom, Cucamonga CA, '68 Camaro 9.870 11.02 -1.150
34 6846 GT/AA Byron Setters, Red Deer AB, '04 Cavalier 9.513 10.66 -1.147
35 7702 GT/FA Mike Graham, Tempe AZ, '00 Cobra 10.235 11.38 -1.145
36 3388 GT/GA Mark Nowicki, Gaylord MI, '98 Avenger 10.342 11.48 -1.138
37 6898 GT/DA Casey Setters, Red Deer AB, '02 Firebird 9.932 11.07 -1.138
38 6340 GT/FA Jim Storms, Renton WA, '98 Avenger 10.243 11.38 -1.137
39 755 GT/DA Kevin Smith, Placentia CA, '87 Camaro 9.933 11.07 -1.137
40 4563 GT/KA Vic Penrod, Walters OK, '95 Achieva 10.908 12.04 -1.132
41 6820 GT/CA Caitlin Setters, Red Deer AB, '96 Camaro 9.839 10.97 -1.131
42 7701 GT/DA Don Kennedy, Mesa AZ, '92 Trans Am 9.940 11.07 -1.130
43 2 GT/DA Michael Iacono, Wading River NY, '87 Camaro 9.945 11.07 -1.125
44 7350 GT/BA Bob Bales, Chino CA, '98 Grand Am 9.687 10.81 -1.123
45 670 GT/CA Alan Falcone, Normandy Park WA, '91 Calais 9.853 10.97 -1.117
46 5200 SS/EM Abe Loewen, Regina SK, '98 Grand Am 9.500 10.61 -1.110
47 1638 GT/EA Ron Morehead, Newburgh NY, '82 Camaro 10.134 11.22 -1.086
48 797 GT/AA Joe Kohorst, Grand Terrace CA, '92 Camaro 9.575 10.66 -1.085
49 6000 GT/BA Norm Lapointe, Edmonton AB, '07 Cobalt 9.732 10.81 -1.078
50 7411 SS/CM Gary Tackett, Corona CA, '64 Nova 9.122 10.20 -1.078
51 6015 GT/TA Tom Nolan, Lacombe AB, '04 S-10 10.051 11.12 -1.069
52 5300 SS/IA Al Corda, Elk Mound WI, '02 Firebird 10.203 11.27 -1.067
53 64 GT/DA Don Thomas, Spruce Grove AB, '04 Grand Am 10.005 11.07 -1.065
54 7800 GT/CA Bob Fordyce, Vista CA, '91 Calais 9.906 10.97 -1.064
55 7582 SS/AA Juan Mendoza, Garden Grove CA, '69 Corvette 9.201 10.25 -1.049
56 6425 GT/CA Art Congdon, Calgary AB, '91 Calais 9.932 10.97 -1.038
57 7391 GT/TA John Winslow, Prunedale CA, '97 Dakota 10.086 11.12 -1.034
58 751 SS/KA Joe Schweigert, Ontario CA, '85 Camaro 10.810 11.84 -1.030
59 720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn, Modesto CA, '68 Barracuda 9.012 10.04 -1.028
60 7210 SS/DM Tom Albritton, West Jordan UT, '90 Trans Am 9.279 10.30 -1.021
61 667 SS/BS John Bouchard, Stony Plain BC, '92 Firebird 9.286 10.30 -1.014
62 7668 SS/TB Brad Rounds, Reno NV, '01 S-10 9.499 10.51 -1.011
63 737 GT/TC Shane Studley, Bellflower CA, '99 Dakota 10.671 11.68 -1.009
64 744 GT/BA Mike Hennessay, Hermosa Beach CA, '91 Olds 9.808 10.81 -1.002
65 7550 SS/NA Gary Williams, Mariposa CA, '64 Comet 11.772 12.76 -0.988
66 6153 SS/PA Rick Pike, Langley BC, '56 Chevy 12.285 13.27 -0.985
67 53 GT/LA Dennis Nelson, Hugo MN, '80 Malibu 11.168 12.15 -0.982
68 602 SS/J Rob Youngblood, Nampa ID, '76 Corvette 10.403 11.38 -0.977
69 7228 SS/IA Bill Blakeney, Bell CA, '68 Camaro 10.317 11.27 -0.953
70 7629 SS/AH Joe Faherty, Apple Valley CA, '68 Dart 9.111 10.04 -0.929
71 7854 SS/AM Ryan McClanahan, Alta Loma CA, '07 Cobalt 8.605 9.53 -0.925
72 10 SS/G John Calvert, Lancaster CA, '68 Mustang 10.105 11.02 -0.915
73 7427 SS/DA Larry Rush, Vernal UT, '69 Camaro 9.855 10.76 -0.905
74 3473 SS/CM Craig Marshall, Columbus OH, '98 Grand Am 9.295 10.20 -0.905
75 788 SS/FA Keri Angeles, Fountain Valley CA, '69 Fire 10.120 11.02 -0.900
76 618 SS/CM Dino Kost, Auburn WA, '91 Calais 9.314 10.20 -0.886
77 767 SS/JA Tim Hall, Fountain Valley CA, '73 Dart 10.699 11.58 -0.881
78 3821 GT/JA Lisa Buckingham, Mansfield OH, '00 Firebird11.026 11.89 -0.864
79 6676 SS/DA Jackie Alley, Eagle ID, '69 Camaro 9.897 10.76 -0.863
80 1633 SS/EM Lincoln Morehead, Marlboro NY, '02 Cavalier 9.750 10.61 -0.860
81 6549 SS/H Terry Anderson, Meridian ID, '67 Nova 10.231 11.07 -0.839
82 5726 GT/FA Jeff Johnson, Aurora CO, '84 Cougar 10.547 11.38 -0.833
83 7797 SS/LA Don Keen, Palmdale CA, '65 Mustang 11.233 12.04 -0.807
84 7873 SS/LA Dennis Paz, Stockton CA, '57 Chevy 11.276 12.04 -0.764
85 799 SS/CS Wes King, Stockton CA, '67 Chevy II 10.183 10.92 -0.737
86 7451 GT/EA Glenn Snow, St. George UT, '85 Trans Am 10.491 11.22 -0.729
87 7031 SS/JA Greg Luneack, Vista CA, '65 Nova Wgn 10.861 11.58 -0.719
88 6842 SS/CS Dan Cyr, Surprise AZ, '67 Chevy II 10.209 10.92 -0.711
89 1781 SS/AS Dan Fletcher, Churchville NY, '69 Camaro 9.450 10.15 -0.700
90 7390 SS/JA John Winslow, San Jose CA, '65 Coronet 10.919 11.58 -0.661
91 7 GT/JA Jody Lang, Puyallup WA, '81 Malibu 11.260 11.89 -0.630
92 61 GT/IA Mark Faul, Tacoma WA, '98 Grand Am 11.227 11.79 -0.563
93 600D GT/L Scott Downard, Boise ID, '55 Chevy 11.397 11.89 -0.493
94 68 SS/BM Brad Plourd, Maple Valley WA, '91 Calais 9.464 9.94 -0.476
95 7348 SS/KA Thomas Ely, Las Vegas NV, '74 Duster 11.376 11.84 -0.464
96 8 SS/AM Scott Stillings, Bradenton FL, '99 Grand Am 9.153 9.53 -0.377
97 B757 GT/IA Michael Billich, Henderson NV, '98 Chevy 11.454 11.79 -0.336
98 213A SS/BM Anthony Bertozzi, Ashland VA, '98 Grand Am 9.702 9.94 -0.238
99 4911 SS/JA Gary Hansen, El Paso TX, '68 Dart 11.936 11.58 0.356
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW!

It just shows how well nhra knows how to factor! Either the alt. factor is worng, or the horsepower is wrong! But I know one thing that is wrong, You can set a record at vegas divisional, But NO HORSE POWER!
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Just as sea level tracks have more than favorable wether, so do altitude tracks. It's a fact of life!
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:25 PM   #4
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Stockracer I agree. Why is it so obvious but nothing has been done about it? Maybe something will change for '08.
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The fact that the same car can go 1.10 under at sea level, travel to Vegas, run slower but qualify 1.30 under, doesn't make sense.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:33 PM   #6
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Why Do No One Bitch When The Air Is Good At Atco? I think it's stupid to give horsepower for good conditions,dont you all?the thing is they know they dont get horsepower at vegas and can let it all hang out..they wont do that att sealevel....AHFS!!!!!!

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Old 10-27-2007, 01:44 PM   #7
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Default Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW!

Nobody b!tches when the air is good at Atco because they are busy crying cause they have HP coming their way.

I'll b!tch about good air at Atco, Englishtown and Gainesville as we have gotten HP added because of runs that were -1.18. And we have never won a round of class at Indy.

If factors are good enough for records, they should be good enough for AHFS. If not, FIX'M!!

Happy now?
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Amen Isaac! You just can't argue with common sense.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:46 PM   #9
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Default Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW!

I'll bet what you are seeing is the real potential in a lot of these cars. In other words, less sandbagging. Like I said, some of these runs are for the history books as indexes are dropping and if GT absorbs SS class cars next year then this may be the last days of SS designated cars.
Really guys, they've had altitude corrected tracks for 30+ years. The factors were in place before 99% of you started racing. Can you get over it?
Now congratulations for all of the racers that aren't SAND-BAGGIN' IT AND RUNNING SO STRONG!!!
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Old 10-27-2007, 03:18 PM   #10
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Jeff,

You are still missing the point !!! No- HP, no-records and no-factors.. Why should one part of the country be handicapped and the other isn't.. You do know when it's below sea-level we still get FACTORED,when your weather is good you get records and no-HP !!! What a bunch of BS..
How can this happen and why isn't changed ???? Jeff, hope you are doing well and why aren't you their flying................ Dave...1033/stock(350ci)
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