What does it take

GTS340 · 01-05-2021, 01:19 PM

Two years ago I purchased a 2009 Challenger R/T. I drove it for a year as I gathered information. After figuring out
how to actually build one for Stock. I gutted the car to my wife's "Holy Cow" surprise. Yes in my two car garage. That is all I have for a shop.
About a year ago, with help from Paul Wong, Mike Blackstone and Diamond piston. A piston was summited for a 345ci street version Hemi.
The guys at Diamond called and called. Nothing! To shorten the story the folks at NHRA said they would get to it asap. yeah right! To this date nothing.
Plenty of dollars and time later. I built the car and there it sits. Mean while another gentleman has been running this combination for
over two years. I was told you can run a OEM, stock bore press on pin piston with a stock bore and a stock rod. That is the only OEM piston available.
You buy a left or a right piston with the rod attached. I've been watching this other car run in Division 2, 3 and 4
It has won class and been a number one qualifier and never runs it out. I'm surprised it has stayed under the radar since it can go 10.50's in H/SA.
What the ... does it take to do it correctly? I have Mike Blackstone build my engines. He has had the engine for a year taking up space. I get that call
once a week! tired of being the nice guy and do it correctly!
A little help here.
Paul Haszlauer 7019

MR DERBY CITY · 01-05-2021, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTS340

Two years ago I purchased a 2009 Challenger R/T. I drove it for a year as I gathered information. After figuring out
how to actually build one for Stock. I gutted the car to my wife's "Holy Cow" surprise. Yes in my two car garage. That is all I have for a shop.
About a year ago, with help from Paul Wong, Mike Blackstone and Diamond piston. A piston was summited for a 345ci street version Hemi.
The guys at Diamond called and called. Nothing! To shorten the story the folks at NHRA said they would get to it asap. yeah right! To this date nothing.
Plenty of dollars and time later. I built the car and there it sits. Mean while another gentleman has been running this combination for
over two years. I was told you can run a OEM, stock bore press on pin piston with a stock bore and a stock rod. That is the only OEM piston available.
You buy a left or a right piston with the rod attached. I've been watching this other car run in Division 2, 3 and 4
It has won class and been a number one qualifier and never runs it out. I'm surprised it has stayed under the radar since it can go 10.50's in H/SA.
What the ... does it take to do it correctly? I have Mike Blackstone build my engines. He has had the engine for a year taking up space. I get that call
once a week! tired of being the nice guy and do it correctly!
A little help here.
Paul Haszlauer 7019

Paul, I feel your pain. Dempsey’s car is not under the RADAR ....the secret has been out for some time now. Everyone that competes in H SA knows about this car....LOL !!!! It’s a great combination. Perhaps you could reach out to Jeff Taylor who was involved in the build. Jeff is a great guy who is always eager to lend a helping hand or advice. Please say HELLO to the other Paul in Las Vegas ....LOL !!!!!

Nmbr1GMfan · 01-05-2021, 03:00 PM

If it was me I would have Diamond make 9 pistons to spec. send one to NHRA and the other 8 would go in the engine.

GTS340 · 01-05-2021, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan

If it was me I would have Diamond make 9 pistons to spec. send one to NHRA and the other 8 would go in the engine.

I said that myself to Mike Blackstone. He said it has to have the number on top. That number needs to be in the books.
I look at all the bogus numbers that are in the books on these combinations other than this one. I summit the correct ones to the numbers and it is screwing up the whole platform I think. The stock pin, stock ring, journal sizes. I'm so over this I can't tell you. They questioned the piston from Diamond because it had 2mm rings. Yup! So Chrysler was suppose to send the spec sheet to probably Jeff Connelly. Whether that happened. I'm over it. The excepted crankshaft after I called is a stroked crank to make it a 426. I called Pat. He said it should have been put in there. Probably still there.

Nmbr1GMfan · 01-05-2021, 04:38 PM

So on the pistons, will Diamond not etch "NHRA" in the piston without acceptance even though they followed spec? Also it need to be said I'm certainly no expert I'm following along here too.

Dyno · 01-06-2021, 12:21 AM

Paul, PM sent.

GTS340 · 01-26-2021, 01:32 PM

Yahoo!! The piston is in the books this morning. Very happy!!

Paul Haszlauer
7019

GTS340 · 01-27-2021, 01:25 PM

I received a E-Mail this morning to apologize for my bad mouthing message that started this thread. Sorry to hear I hurt feelings. I hope everyone can heal now. By the way thanks for all the "Liked" Since I was in the Hospital
two weeks ago. It made me feel better.

Thanks a bunch,
Paul Haszlauer

01-05-2021, 01:19 PM	#1
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 847 Likes: 250 Liked 1,295 Times in 392 Posts	What does it take Two years ago I purchased a 2009 Challenger R/T. I drove it for a year as I gathered information. After figuring out how to actually build one for Stock. I gutted the car to my wife's "Holy Cow" surprise. Yes in my two car garage. That is all I have for a shop. About a year ago, with help from Paul Wong, Mike Blackstone and Diamond piston. A piston was summited for a 345ci street version Hemi. The guys at Diamond called and called. Nothing! To shorten the story the folks at NHRA said they would get to it asap. yeah right! To this date nothing. Plenty of dollars and time later. I built the car and there it sits. Mean while another gentleman has been running this combination for over two years. I was told you can run a OEM, stock bore press on pin piston with a stock bore and a stock rod. That is the only OEM piston available. You buy a left or a right piston with the rod attached. I've been watching this other car run in Division 2, 3 and 4 It has won class and been a number one qualifier and never runs it out. I'm surprised it has stayed under the radar since it can go 10.50's in H/SA. What the ... does it take to do it correctly? I have Mike Blackstone build my engines. He has had the engine for a year taking up space. I get that call once a week! tired of being the nice guy and do it correctly! A little help here. Paul Haszlauer 7019

01-05-2021, 03:00 PM	#3
Nmbr1GMfan VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,763 Likes: 1,197 Liked 1,954 Times in 491 Posts	Re: What does it take If it was me I would have Diamond make 9 pistons to spec. send one to NHRA and the other 8 would go in the engine. __________________ Todd Greene

01-05-2021, 04:38 PM	#5
Nmbr1GMfan VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,763 Likes: 1,197 Liked 1,954 Times in 491 Posts	Re: What does it take So on the pistons, will Diamond not etch "NHRA" in the piston without acceptance even though they followed spec? Also it need to be said I'm certainly no expert I'm following along here too. __________________ Todd Greene

01-06-2021, 12:21 AM	#6
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 905 Likes: 1,098 Liked 659 Times in 196 Posts	Re: What does it take Paul, PM sent.

01-26-2021, 01:32 PM	#7
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 847 Likes: 250 Liked 1,295 Times in 392 Posts	Re: What does it take Yahoo!! The piston is in the books this morning. Very happy!! Paul Haszlauer 7019

01-27-2021, 01:25 PM	#8
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 847 Likes: 250 Liked 1,295 Times in 392 Posts	Re: What does it take I received a E-Mail this morning to apologize for my bad mouthing message that started this thread. Sorry to hear I hurt feelings. I hope everyone can heal now. By the way thanks for all the "Liked" Since I was in the Hospital two weeks ago. It made me feel better. Thanks a bunch, Paul Haszlauer