Ol' Fart's Firebird Fantasy

I've been following your thread from the begining. More and more I read into it, I question if you are really looking to do this. There are people who just want to talk about it and that's fine.

If you want to build a car, find something that fits your budget and go. If you have a car and it fits a class, it might be best to build that car around the rules. It's easier and cheaper to build an engine then a whole car.

If you have trouble interpreting the rule book and have to ask countless questions about it every day, this deal might not be for you. Maybe try to show up at a track and observe different cars and how they are put together. I'm sure if the rear end housing is slightly off width wise you will be ok. Especially if the car is a 77 Bonniville, who the hell would know that, or come to the race with that info. If you had a Camaro or a Mustang it should be right, and it would be easy to tell by the rim offset and tire placement . As long as the tires fit correctly you should be fine.
I'm not sure you have the right judge what is more or less illegal with other car in the class when you don't and have never raced in it. Either crap or get off the pot, this post of 10 pages of how about and what do you think of this. When you start building a car then start a new one about it.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

I'm sure if the rear end housing is slightly off width wise you will be ok. Especially if the car is a 77 Bonniville, who the hell would know that, or come to the race with that info. If you had a Camaro or a Mustang it should be right, and it would be easy to tell by the rim offset and tire placement . As long as the tires fit correctly you should be fine.
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There ya go,Todd

Now everybody here knows about , so we can't do that.
Have to move on to the next idea...
This could go on forever, with no actual racing..
Maybe that's the plan after all....

That's the plan, to be the center of attention.

Damm! I guess my next build is in the crapper. I was going to build one of those with a shortened rear from an Austrialan Cadiliac in reverse rotation. The 301 combo with an altered firing order to optimize the resonating pulse in the intake. Hope I didn't just let out the secret of this combo. Sorry 😁

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

There ya go,Todd

Now everybody here knows about , so we can't do that.
Have to move on to the next idea...
This could go on forever, with no actual racing..
Maybe that's the plan after all....

[Don Himes]

Yo! Todd, stop giving away all the 301 speed secrets

[Alan Nyhus]

oldskool:

It's obvious you have an interest in racing a Stocker and that's great! Using what you have always gives you the best bang-for-the-buck.

I still see your Ventura as the way forward for 'ya. Plop on a dash pad, square away the hood, a couple of patch panels for the rear quarters, scarf up some used Cal Tracs and you're darn near there. A basic build 350 with a decent camshaft and you're at the track. Heck, give Mr. Ringer a call...who knows what might be available?

For what it's worth, at one of our Midwest Class Racers Stock/Super Stock events this past season, Tom Lewis came from the last qualifying spot (#43) to win the final round and the $2,000. His opponent in the final was the #1 qualifyer, Rich Muhlenhardt.

If you're out there racin' you're a player. -Al

[Dave Gantz]

Oldskool, your profile shows that you haven't been logged in since Jan. 30th. I'll assume you're checking this w/o being logged in.
The stuff that's been written on here, and lots of forums, can seem harsh, but it's only the same ball busting that would go on in person. It's just that with written words, as opposed to spoken, you don't get the entire perspective.
I agree with others, you have really rambled on here, and if you did that where I used to talk racing, you would have gotten the same responses, only with all the laughter and joking included.
Maybe you know all of this, if so, don't mind me. It seems you took the heat.
Ask questions. You do have to pick a car and build it. If you want the cheapest car possible, you'll end up selling your stuff and buying the combo that has the potential to be the cheapest. One of the first rules of class racing is that the car you have isn't usually the best car for what you want to do.

[Jeff Goss]

Dave, I agree.


My comment seemed harsh as well. My only point being that I have spent A LOT of time and money to make my car competitive and Legal. I didn't do all that to go out and run against someone who is knowingly racing a car that is illegal-no matter how small the infraction seems to them.


There are other classes to run, just not Stock and Super Stock.


I fully encourage anyone to build a car and come race.