Pure Stocker Thread

[ALMACK]

I know my 1995 Mustang 302 is NHRA rated @ 213 hp.

The IHRA rating for PS is 220.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Just came back from the Richmond IHRA Pro-AM race.
There were 5 Pure Sockers C/PS, 2 H/PS, my G/PS, I/PS.

What impresssed me was the affordability just by using Pump Gas.
Most of the regular Stockers and SS run well with Pump fuel and will not let other classes use it. Does not make any sense.

It would be a Cost Saving and IHRA/NHRA should start allowing it.
In fact if both Bodies want to add Sponsors, they could encourage the National Gas Brands to get more involved.

For example 94 Octane Sunoco and other High Test street performance fuels can be sold at Stations near the Drag Strips. Storage would be far safer and fuel more stable.

If you do not need the $8 to $12 per gallon fuels the Tracks have the capacity to handle those sales.

I think marketing Pure Stock harder would bring in more racers as Stock will look a lot closer to Stock.

Especially adding the foreign owned American built cars which would create a more local track race interest.

Sure wished NHRA followed up on this.

http://www.nhra.net/2004/news/june/062202.html
(ALMACK spoted this link earlier)

Dan

We can only hope so Dan, and beyond the lower cost fuel, it would allow the engines to run cleaner, so we could help keep our clean air clean...especially in the northwest with all of your trees! My car has a low compression engine, so It would probably like the 94 Octane Sunoco, over the 110 stock legal fuel. Good luck with your racing this year!

[cicero819]

Hey NHRA! you're missing the boat, wouldn't hurt to run this class at the Divisional level. Pure stock with only dot soft tires. I would buy a new Challenger or Mustang in a second.CR

[Phillip marvetz]

Originally Posted by Tand E racing

question? i assume that IHRA uses the same horsepower ratings as NHRA for they're pure stock class
unlike Phillip i wish there was more IHRA tracks in the northwest area to run not only Pure stock but some of the other classes IHRA offers. I think the closest right now is Ashcroft BC and i believe a track in Montana recently switched to IHRA?

If you think I am anti IHRA you don't know me very well,lol. I wish every track around here was IHRA. Although I may give NHRA another try now that Div6 has a director that seems to give a damn about the racers, Frank Nelson is trying to save the sinking ship that Jonathon abandoned and I think he has the fortitude to do it.
Now what class would my 65 Hemi Coronet run in pure stock?.......

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

We can only hope so Dan, and beyond the lower cost fuel, it would allow the engines to run cleaner, so we could help keep our clean air clean...especially in the northwest with all of your trees! My car has a low compression engine, so It would probably like the 94 Octane Sunoco, over the 110 stock legal fuel. Good luck with your racing this year!

Thanks...does 110 racing gas make Stocker and Super Stockers run quicker?

Just ran at the 1st Annual Northern Super Heavy Shoot-out at Cecil County Dragway
It was a lot of fun..my car weighed 4390# to 4325# and made 9 runs.
There was enough time to make 15 T&T runs before running the competitions.
On racer made 22 runs.

Love the idea being able to keep costs low and put them into the car.
I filled up with Sunoco 93 Octane near the track.

Just think it is not good judgement by IHRA and NHRA forcing racers to use race gas.
When Pump Gas is useable for Stock Cars.

I can see for high compression but most of our cars are not.

Dan

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Thanks...does 110 racing gas make Stocker and Super Stockers run quicker?

Just ran at the 1st Annual Northern Super Heavy Shoot-out at Cecil County Dragway
It was a lot of fun..my car weighed 4390# to 4325# and made 9 runs.
There was enough time to make 15 T&T runs before running the competitions.
On racer made 22 runs.

Love the idea being able to keep costs low and put them into the car.
I filled up with Sunoco 93 Octane near the track.

Just think it is not good judgement by IHRA and NHRA forcing racers to use race gas.
When Pump Gas is useable for Stock Cars.

I can see for high compression but most of our cars are not.

Dan

I don't think 110 fuel is an improvement for low compression engines (especially mine)... many of todays regular autos, don't need to use Premium Unleaded like the Challengers, Mustangs, and Camaro's do. I can check my old log books, but I'm certain that when I had to stop using aviation fuel, and start using VP/Sunoco instead, I'm certain that it didn't help my car run any quicker, and actually may have slowed it down a little?

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Hey NHRA! you're missing the boat, wouldn't hurt to run this class at the Divisional level. Pure stock with only dot soft tires. I would buy a new Challenger or Mustang in a second.CR

I'm with you on this, as I've had my eyes on the Challengers since they came out, and have entertained thoughts of doing the same thing. It would be nice to be able to race in Stock Eliminator with a car I can drive to/from the track, thus eliminating the need for a truck/trailer combo, and a house with an RV lot on the side of it. Plus I believe those V6 Challengers are nearly 300hp 13-14sec. monsters, as are the Camaros and Mustangs!!!

I no longer feel bad for not being 10-20yrs older so I could've bought a near new or brand new muscle car from the dealer....

[Phillip marvetz]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

I'm with you on this, as I've had my eyes on the Challengers since they came out, and have entertained thoughts of doing the same thing. It would be nice to be able to race in Stock Eliminator with a car I can drive to/from the track, thus eliminating the need for a truck/trailer combo, and a house with an RV lot on the side of it. Plus I believe those V6 Challengers are nearly 300hp 13-14sec. monsters, as are the Camaros and Mustangs!!!

I no longer feel bad for not being 10-20yrs older so I could've bought a near new or brand new muscle car from the dealer....

The v6 mustangs will run high 13's bone stock. Not sure about the Challengers and Camaros.

[Tand E racing]

Phillip i did'nt say you were anti IHRA the wording in your post seemed to say that or maybe i just read it wrong. i agree with you about Frank i hope he can save it, only time will tell. right now all i'm hoping for is no rain at Mission this weekend.And yes we do need more IHRA tracks on the west coast.

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Thanks...does 110 racing gas make Stocker and Super Stockers run quicker?

Just ran at the 1st Annual Northern Super Heavy Shoot-out at Cecil County Dragway
It was a lot of fun..my car weighed 4390# to 4325# and made 9 runs.
There was enough time to make 15 T&T runs before running the competitions.
On racer made 22 runs.

Love the idea being able to keep costs low and put them into the car.
I filled up with Sunoco 93 Octane near the track.

Just think it is not good judgement by IHRA and NHRA forcing racers to use race gas.
When Pump Gas is useable for Stock Cars.

I can see for high compression but most of our cars are not.

Dan

Most stocker engines built to the blueprint minimums have a much higher compression ratio then stock. The race gas helps.