Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's

[NewHemi]

The right lane for Stock in Indianapolis was total crap. Big bald spots everywhere.

A lot of racers got eliminated because of a bad track, and nothing to do with cars or drivers as racing should be.

It is one thing to get beaten by a faster car, or a better rt, but when you pay money and all they give you to run is a crap lane, that just isn't racing.

I absolutely don't understand how that can go on at a National event. But it did!

David
The New Hemi Guy

[Rollins_2241]

I went right down the middle 11 times, using both lanes, on 10 inch tires with about 800 HP. Launched at 4400 in S/ST and 5400 in 10.0, never spun. Maybe the weight (3230#) was a favorable factor.

I know we have a lot of "hitters" complaining here, but that's just not the track I experienced. Flame away.

[Bill Grubbs]

9 inch tires
close to 3800 lbs
Short of 600 hp
launch less than 3000 rpm

Your dad can beat up my dad any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

I went right down the middle 11 times, using both lanes, on 10 inch tires with about 800 HP. Launched at 4400 in S/ST and 5400 in 10.0, never spun. Maybe the weight (3230#) was a favorable factor.

I know we have a lot of "hitters" complaining here, but that's just not the track I experienced. Flame away.

Wasn't there a time that Gainesville traction sucked on bracket nights because of VP? What are they using now, it's been a while since I've been there.

As for some cars working well, there are lots of variables in the chassis, including tuning for a marginal track. My compliments to your set-up. But when people go to a national or divisional race and spend quite a bit of money, the expectations are higher. Often they are met, but then the occasional disregard for proper prep causes the obvious issues. I run radials all the time and I can't remember the last time I had ongoing issues at an IHRA event. I found that at local races I do have problems because their prep isn't as thorough and radials are more "sensitive". That's expected so I add weight and make the best of it. But issues at any national or divisional event are inexcusable. Why should I spend even more time and money to make up for someone else's deficiencies and/or laziness? If I pay for a 5 star hotel, I expect that level of service. If I pay for a 3 star motel, I go in expecting less. This isn't meant as a slam on local tracks/events, even though some can do better. But the smaller tracks don't have the resources that a national or divisional event SHOULD have. Yet, there are some local tracks with traction that put some of these nationals and divisionals to shame on a CONSISTENT basis! Pun intended!

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

I went right down the middle 11 times, using both lanes, on 10 inch tires with about 800 HP. Launched at 4400 in S/ST and 5400 in 10.0, never spun. Maybe the weight (3230#) was a favorable factor.

I know we have a lot of "hitters" complaining here, but that's just not the track I experienced. Flame away.

What kind of converter you have in that thing?

[Greg Hill]

Throttle stop, 1.76 power glide , soft converter, a lot different than a stocker or super stocker.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Throttle stop, 1.76 power glide , soft converter, a lot different than a stocker or super stocker.

Should hook in a car wash. Can't imagine how long the throttle stop would have to be on to slow a 800 HP 3200 lb car down to 10.00. Same weight as mine, runs about the same times with over 200 more HP.

Put an 8" ATI Treemaster converter in it and get back to us on that. LOL

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Should hook in a car wash. Can't imagine how long the throttle stop would have to be on to slow a 800 HP 3200 lb car down to 10.00. Same weight as mine, runs about the same times with over 200 more HP.

Put an 8" ATI Treemaster converter in it and get back to us on that. LOL

The NHRA 10.0, 11.0 and 12.0 classes do not allow any "timed" throttle stops or other engine related settings. Only pre-set mechanical adjustments. Not sure if that includes trans shifters. Trans-brakes and 2-steps ok, but no delay boxes.

[Rollins_2241]

Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate.

This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires.

Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing.

Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track.

[Ed Wright]

Good to know, Myron. I gotta wonder how it could be that slow if it really has 800 HP. Should be about a 9.0 car. Must be a really soft converter. Like I said, put a converter like we run in it and let us know how it hooks.