Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's

Greg Hill · 10-02-2012, 06:04 PM

Throttle stop, 1.76 power glide , soft converter, a lot different than a stocker or super stocker.

Ed Wright · 10-02-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Throttle stop, 1.76 power glide , soft converter, a lot different than a stocker or super stocker.

Should hook in a car wash. Can't imagine how long the throttle stop would have to be on to slow a 800 HP 3200 lb car down to 10.00. Same weight as mine, runs about the same times with over 200 more HP.

Put an 8" ATI Treemaster converter in it and get back to us on that. LOL

Myron Piatek · 10-02-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Should hook in a car wash. Can't imagine how long the throttle stop would have to be on to slow a 800 HP 3200 lb car down to 10.00. Same weight as mine, runs about the same times with over 200 more HP.

Put an 8" ATI Treemaster converter in it and get back to us on that. LOL

The NHRA 10.0, 11.0 and 12.0 classes do not allow any "timed" throttle stops or other engine related settings. Only pre-set mechanical adjustments. Not sure if that includes trans shifters. Trans-brakes and 2-steps ok, but no delay boxes.

Rollins_2241 · 10-02-2012, 07:44 PM

Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate.

This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires.

Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing.

Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track.

Chad Rhodes · 10-03-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate.

This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires.

Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing.

Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track.

Just a guess but with a 1.80 low, and a 3.90 gear, you're not hitting the starting line near as hard as most stock and ss cars

Rollins_2241 · 10-03-2012, 08:22 AM

No offense guys, but I could sit here and take apart all your setups too. You're missing the point - if you want to win, you have to build a car that will go down the track. Think military - adapt and overcome. Spend your time and money wisely instead of sitting here. This is the drag racing economy and weather conditions we have to live in - no facility wants to spend more than they have to on the track, and nobody wants to rain out races and force people to waste another $1,000 in diesel coming back later.

Bill Grubbs · 10-03-2012, 09:05 AM

John,
To quote Painter and GEICO,"Come on in the water is plenty deep!" - "It's so easy even a caveman can do it"

Bill

Greg Hill · 10-03-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

No offense guys, but I could sit here and take apart all your setups too. You're missing the point - if you want to win, you have to build a car that will go down the track. Think military - adapt and overcome. Spend your time and money wisely instead of sitting here. This is the drag racing economy and weather conditions we have to live in - no facility wants to spend more than they have to on the track, and nobody wants to rain out races and force people to waste another $1,000 in diesel coming back later.

I think most of us could put together a bracket car that would go down most any track. The difference in stock and super stock is that first you have to run the index, you have rules on modifications, and you have heads up runs, especially if you run
A through G stock automatic. Try hooking a higher hp stocker on 9 inch tiers with a 2.75 low gear trans and a 5.13 rear gear and a 92 inch rollout tire. What you do and what we do is a lot different.

Ed Wright · 10-02-2012, 07:45 PM

Good to know, Myron. I gotta wonder how it could be that slow if it really has 800 HP. Should be about a 9.0 car. Must be a really soft converter. Like I said, put a converter like we run in it and let us know how it hooks.

10-02-2012, 06:04 PM	#1
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Throttle stop, 1.76 power glide , soft converter, a lot different than a stocker or super stocker. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

10-02-2012, 07:44 PM	#4
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate. This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires. Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing. Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track. Last edited by Rollins_2241; 10-02-2012 at 07:47 PM. Reason: More detail

10-03-2012, 08:22 AM	#6
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's No offense guys, but I could sit here and take apart all your setups too. You're missing the point - if you want to win, you have to build a car that will go down the track. Think military - adapt and overcome. Spend your time and money wisely instead of sitting here. This is the drag racing economy and weather conditions we have to live in - no facility wants to spend more than they have to on the track, and nobody wants to rain out races and force people to waste another $1,000 in diesel coming back later.

10-03-2012, 09:05 AM	#7
Bill Grubbs Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 416 Likes: 3 Liked 564 Times in 66 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's John, To quote Painter and GEICO,"Come on in the water is plenty deep!" - "It's so easy even a caveman can do it" Bill

10-02-2012, 07:45 PM	#9
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Good to know, Myron. I gotta wonder how it could be that slow if it really has 800 HP. Should be about a 9.0 car. Must be a really soft converter. Like I said, put a converter like we run in it and let us know how it hooks. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 10-02-2012 at 07:49 PM.