Best Pontiac Powered Stockers

oldskool · 01-05-2020, 07:03 PM

OK, we're up to 2010, lookin mostly at '71 & '72 Birds, especially the Burton Birds.

At Pomona, Brad was #3 -.969. Leo was #7 @ -.939. Mike McGinley was #9 @ -.920. Larry was #17 @ -.878. Jack Matyas was #18 @ -.861. Scott was #19 @ .860. Marion Stphenson was #69, & Ryam Warter was #73.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

Brad won this race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

At Phoenix, Brad was #4 @ -.842. Tibor was #7 @ -.802. Scott was #11 @ -.770. Marion & Ryan were on the lower half of the sheet.
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https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

At Vegas Leo was #2 @ - 1.134. Tibor was #8 @ - 1.009. Scott was #9 -.984. Mark Maxwell was #14 @ -.902. Lindy was #23 @ -.822. Ryan Warter was at the bottom.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

The Burtons didn't make the Fontana race. But Leo was #1 qualifier, @ -.956. Lindy was #10 @ -.720. John was #13 @ -.705.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

All the Pontiacs picked up their class win. John Schloe won the race ! But he had to put out Leo in the Semi. So, Pontiacs got the #1 qualifier & the Stock win ! Hey, that's a pretty good day for the Pontiac faithful.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

The Burtons made the Topeka race. Scott was #8 @ -.853. Brad was #10 @ -.837. They were the only Pontiacs on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

OK, now we come to the Mile High Nats. This is the 1st race I've seen where Scott has moved up to B/SA, with the RAIV engine. Brad is #2 @ - 1.099. Scott is #8 @ -.982.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

And Brad won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

At the Fall Vegas race, Leo was #5 @ - 1.100. Michael Brand was driving Scott's B/SA Bird. He was #8 @ - 1.047. Brad was #11 @ - 1.000. Lindy was #17 @ -.966. Tibor was #24 @ -.908. Larry was #35 @ -.852. Don Elgin was #79.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Bill was #3 @ - 1.079. Leo was #5 @ - 1.037. Brad was #8 @ - 1.024. Scott was #10 @ - 1.014. John was #15 @ -.982. Lindy was #20 @ -.956.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

Well, Brad Burton got his 1st national Championship !

How cool is that ? And he did it in a Pontiac powered Pontiac. For me, that's WAY cool !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

For you guys who have been keepin up with Stock racing for a long time, who was the last guy to win a Stock Championship, in a Pontiac V8 powered Pontiac, before Brad did it in 2010 ?

oldskool · 01-07-2020, 02:03 AM

OK, lets continue to look at early 2nd gen Birds. Since Scott had switched to the '70 RAIV combo, and we'll soon be seeing some '73 cars that ran/run strong, AND since '70-'73 Bird bodies are so similar, we'll look especially at the '70-'73 models, while also noting other quick Pontiacs, at the same races or same season.

We'll look now at the 2011 season. At the Winter Nats, Leo was # 3 @ -.973. Brad was #11 @ - .872. John was #12 @ -.864. Lindy was #26 @ -.807. Scott was #35 @ -.735.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

At the Spring Vegas race, Brad was #3 @ -.912. Scott was #5 @ -.887. Leo was #6 @ -.884. Lindy was #16 @ -.765.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

At the Mile High Nats, Michael Brand was #2 @ -.906. Scott was #12 @ -.709.

Scott won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

I think by this race Brad Burton had moved to Washington State. At the Northwest Nats, he was #2 @ -.902. Bill was #3 @ -.883. Don Elgin was #23 @ -.556.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

Brad made the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

I checked in at the Sports Nats race. Bob Michaels was #8 @ -.976. Randi Lyn was # 13 @ -.937. Mike Morgan was #25 @ -.875. Mike McGinley was #28 @ -.862. Tim Gillespie was #30 @ -.849.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

At the AZ Nats, Randi Lyn was #11 @ -.771. Tibor was #12 @ -.724. Scott was #14 @ -.698. Lindy was #17 @ -.691. Rick was #25 @ -.634. Brad was #29 @ -.544.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

Randi Lyn won her 1st nat event !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

At the Fall Vegas race, Leo was #13 @ -.973. Brad was #16 @ -.931. Randi Lyn was #22 @ -.895. Scott was #25 @ -.872. Larry was #28 @ -.854. Michael Brand was #35 @ -.822. John was #38 @ -.811. Paul was #59 @ -.738. Lindy was #61 @ -.724. Don was #88.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

At Pomona, Randi Lyn qualified at more than a sec under. Highest of any carb equipped car. No Pontiac winners.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop

Rick Unterseh · 01-07-2020, 03:08 PM

I see you are hitting the nationals..... gonna do a separate thread on the Pontiacs at divisionals? not everyone goes to the Nationals.... some of us just don't go anymore from past experiences.

oldskool · 01-08-2020, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Unterseh

I see you are hitting the nationals..... gonna do a separate thread on the Pontiacs at divisionals? not everyone goes to the Nationals.... some of us just don't go anymore from past experiences.

Yeah, just about to start including the div races. DRC only shows 2012-up div race results. Right now, DRC is about the only source I have. If somebody knows a quick reliable source for the older div races, I'll be glad to dive into 'em & see what I can find.

Hey, if any of you guys have Pontiac V8 powered div race wins to report, by all means, please post that info !

There are also races with other names, like regionals, national opens, Stock/SS combo races. There's no way I can hope to find results for all those. So, anybody with info about Pontiac wins at any of those special races, please post it.

How about the Stock final, at the top of the page, on the February 2012 DRC div race list ? An all Pontiac final. Scott Burton winner. Michael Brand RU !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

I suspect there will be lots of div race Pontiac wins to report.

Don Kennedy · 01-08-2020, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldskool

Yeah, just about to start including the div races. DRC only shows 2012-up div race results. Right now, DRC is about the only source I have. If somebody knows a quick reliable source for the older div races, I'll be glad to dive into 'em & see what I can find.

Hey, if any of you guys have Pontiac V8 powered div race wins to report, by all means, please post that info !

There are also races with other names, like regionals, national opens, Stock/SS combo races. There's no way I can hope to find results for all those. So, anybody with info about Pontiac wins at any of those special races, please post it.

How about the Stock final, at the top of the page, on the February 2012 DRC div race list ? An all Pontiac final. Scott Burton winner. Michael Brand RU !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

I suspect there will be lots of div race Pontiac wins to report.

oldskool · 01-08-2020, 10:32 AM

Great Video.

Would be great to also post it on the SS thread, since we are talkin about GT cars there.

oldskool · 01-08-2020, 03:31 PM

OK, we'll now look at the 2012 season. And, since DRC has div race results from 2012-up, we'll also look at some of those.

Remember, we are now looking mostly at the '70-'73 Firebirds, but also mentioning other good Pontiac Stocker info we find during the search for those year models.

As usual, the Winter Nats was the 1st big race of the year, in 2012. At That race, Leo was #2 @ - 1.017. Brad was #5 @ -.943. Scott was #9 @ -.917. Larry was #12 @ -.909. John was #18 @ -.880. Lindy was #45 @ -.725.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Brad won it !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the AZ Nats, Rick was #1 @ - 1.009, with his 301T Bird. Leo was #3 @ -.948. Brad was #4 @ -.946. Scott was #7 @ -.915.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Leo won this race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the div 7-1 race, Scott was #4 @ -.907. Michael was #10 @ -.865. Leo was #12 @ -.851. Larry Was #15 @ -.814. Rick was #23 @ -.787. John was #29 @ -.750. Glenn Person was #30 @ -.717. Lindy was #53, & Brad was on the bottom, with a scorching 28.000.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Leo won this one, too !

Michael was semi. Scott was QF.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

This was div 7 doubleheader. For the 2nd race, the order was Scott, Michael, Brad, Larry, John, Glen & Lindy.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

And, it was an All-Pontiac final. I LOVE those.

It was Scott, over Michael. Hey, Pontiac got off to a great start in 2012.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the div 7 Vegas race, Leo Was #1 @ -.987. Scott was #4 @ -.936. Michael was #5 @ -.922. Larry was #11 @ -.878. John was #25 @ -.793. Glenn Person was #32 @ -.749. Lindy was #60.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the 1st Vegas Nat of the year, Pontiacs were #1, #2, & #4 Qualifiers. Since there will be so many races to cover, with the inclusion of the div races, I no longer try to list the times of each Pontiac. But I'll try to list the highest Pontiac qualifiers. Anyone interested in the lower qualified Pontiacs can simply click on the link & look down the list. At this race, Leo was .973 under, & Michael & Scott were close behind.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Scott & Michael picked up their class wins. Leo & Larry Peterson got class RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Hey Hey, it was an all Burton, Stock final !!!

Michael made the quarterfinal.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

5 Pontiacs in this div 6 race. Bill Edgeworth had the top Pontiac.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

But Brad won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Michael & Scott were #4 & #5 at this div 5 race.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Scott got RU !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Bill was #2 at this div 6 race.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Brad won the race.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Scott was #2 qualifier at the Mile High Nats. But Michael won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Well, that gets us thru July. Since the season is aprox 10 months long, I assume that's more than half way. So, I'll stop this & do the rest of the season in the next post.

Hey, the Pontiacs had a great 1st half, in 2012 !

01-05-2020, 07:03 PM	#1
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers OK, we're up to 2010, lookin mostly at '71 & '72 Birds, especially the Burton Birds. At Pomona, Brad was #3 -.969. Leo was #7 @ -.939. Mike McGinley was #9 @ -.920. Larry was #17 @ -.878. Jack Matyas was #18 @ -.861. Scott was #19 @ .860. Marion Stphenson was #69, & Ryam Warter was #73. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Brad won this race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At Phoenix, Brad was #4 @ -.842. Tibor was #7 @ -.802. Scott was #11 @ -.770. Marion & Ryan were on the lower half of the sheet. . https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At Vegas Leo was #2 @ - 1.134. Tibor was #8 @ - 1.009. Scott was #9 -.984. Mark Maxwell was #14 @ -.902. Lindy was #23 @ -.822. Ryan Warter was at the bottom. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop The Burtons didn't make the Fontana race. But Leo was #1 qualifier, @ -.956. Lindy was #10 @ -.720. John was #13 @ -.705. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop All the Pontiacs picked up their class win. John Schloe won the race ! But he had to put out Leo in the Semi. So, Pontiacs got the #1 qualifier & the Stock win ! Hey, that's a pretty good day for the Pontiac faithful. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop The Burtons made the Topeka race. Scott was #8 @ -.853. Brad was #10 @ -.837. They were the only Pontiacs on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop OK, now we come to the Mile High Nats. This is the 1st race I've seen where Scott has moved up to B/SA, with the RAIV engine. Brad is #2 @ - 1.099. Scott is #8 @ -.982. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop And Brad won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Fall Vegas race, Leo was #5 @ - 1.100. Michael Brand was driving Scott's B/SA Bird. He was #8 @ - 1.047. Brad was #11 @ - 1.000. Lindy was #17 @ -.966. Tibor was #24 @ -.908. Larry was #35 @ -.852. Don Elgin was #79. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Bill was #3 @ - 1.079. Leo was #5 @ - 1.037. Brad was #8 @ - 1.024. Scott was #10 @ - 1.014. John was #15 @ -.982. Lindy was #20 @ -.956. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Well, Brad Burton got his 1st national Championship ! How cool is that ? And he did it in a Pontiac powered Pontiac. For me, that's WAY cool ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop For you guys who have been keepin up with Stock racing for a long time, who was the last guy to win a Stock Championship, in a Pontiac V8 powered Pontiac, before Brad did it in 2010 ? Last edited by oldskool; 01-06-2020 at 04:31 AM.

01-07-2020, 02:03 AM	#2
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers OK, lets continue to look at early 2nd gen Birds. Since Scott had switched to the '70 RAIV combo, and we'll soon be seeing some '73 cars that ran/run strong, AND since '70-'73 Bird bodies are so similar, we'll look especially at the '70-'73 models, while also noting other quick Pontiacs, at the same races or same season. We'll look now at the 2011 season. At the Winter Nats, Leo was # 3 @ -.973. Brad was #11 @ - .872. John was #12 @ -.864. Lindy was #26 @ -.807. Scott was #35 @ -.735. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Brad was #3 @ -.912. Scott was #5 @ -.887. Leo was #6 @ -.884. Lindy was #16 @ -.765. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Mile High Nats, Michael Brand was #2 @ -.906. Scott was #12 @ -.709. Scott won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop I think by this race Brad Burton had moved to Washington State. At the Northwest Nats, he was #2 @ -.902. Bill was #3 @ -.883. Don Elgin was #23 @ -.556. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop Brad made the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop I checked in at the Sports Nats race. Bob Michaels was #8 @ -.976. Randi Lyn was # 13 @ -.937. Mike Morgan was #25 @ -.875. Mike McGinley was #28 @ -.862. Tim Gillespie was #30 @ -.849. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the AZ Nats, Randi Lyn was #11 @ -.771. Tibor was #12 @ -.724. Scott was #14 @ -.698. Lindy was #17 @ -.691. Rick was #25 @ -.634. Brad was #29 @ -.544. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop Randi Lyn won her 1st nat event ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Fall Vegas race, Leo was #13 @ -.973. Brad was #16 @ -.931. Randi Lyn was #22 @ -.895. Scott was #25 @ -.872. Larry was #28 @ -.854. Michael Brand was #35 @ -.822. John was #38 @ -.811. Paul was #59 @ -.738. Lindy was #61 @ -.724. Don was #88. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At Pomona, Randi Lyn qualified at more than a sec under. Highest of any carb equipped car. No Pontiac winners. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop Last edited by oldskool; 01-08-2020 at 03:39 AM.

01-07-2020, 03:08 PM	#3
Rick Unterseh Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 133 Likes: 3 Liked 31 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers I see you are hitting the nationals..... gonna do a separate thread on the Pontiacs at divisionals? not everyone goes to the Nationals.... some of us just don't go anymore from past experiences. __________________ Rick Unterseh O/SA P/SA Last edited by Rick Unterseh; 01-07-2020 at 03:28 PM. Reason: changed wording

01-08-2020, 10:32 AM	#6
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Great Video. Would be great to also post it on the SS thread, since we are talkin about GT cars there.

01-08-2020, 03:31 PM	#7
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers OK, we'll now look at the 2012 season. And, since DRC has div race results from 2012-up, we'll also look at some of those. Remember, we are now looking mostly at the '70-'73 Firebirds, but also mentioning other good Pontiac Stocker info we find during the search for those year models. As usual, the Winter Nats was the 1st big race of the year, in 2012. At That race, Leo was #2 @ - 1.017. Brad was #5 @ -.943. Scott was #9 @ -.917. Larry was #12 @ -.909. John was #18 @ -.880. Lindy was #45 @ -.725. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Brad won it ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the AZ Nats, Rick was #1 @ - 1.009, with his 301T Bird. Leo was #3 @ -.948. Brad was #4 @ -.946. Scott was #7 @ -.915. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Leo won this race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the div 7-1 race, Scott was #4 @ -.907. Michael was #10 @ -.865. Leo was #12 @ -.851. Larry Was #15 @ -.814. Rick was #23 @ -.787. John was #29 @ -.750. Glenn Person was #30 @ -.717. Lindy was #53, & Brad was on the bottom, with a scorching 28.000. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Leo won this one, too ! Michael was semi. Scott was QF. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop This was div 7 doubleheader. For the 2nd race, the order was Scott, Michael, Brad, Larry, John, Glen & Lindy. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop And, it was an All-Pontiac final. I LOVE those. It was Scott, over Michael. Hey, Pontiac got off to a great start in 2012. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the div 7 Vegas race, Leo Was #1 @ -.987. Scott was #4 @ -.936. Michael was #5 @ -.922. Larry was #11 @ -.878. John was #25 @ -.793. Glenn Person was #32 @ -.749. Lindy was #60. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the 1st Vegas Nat of the year, Pontiacs were #1, #2, & #4 Qualifiers. Since there will be so many races to cover, with the inclusion of the div races, I no longer try to list the times of each Pontiac. But I'll try to list the highest Pontiac qualifiers. Anyone interested in the lower qualified Pontiacs can simply click on the link & look down the list. At this race, Leo was .973 under, & Michael & Scott were close behind. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Scott & Michael picked up their class wins. Leo & Larry Peterson got class RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Hey Hey, it was an all Burton, Stock final !!! Michael made the quarterfinal. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop 5 Pontiacs in this div 6 race. Bill Edgeworth had the top Pontiac. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop But Brad won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Michael & Scott were #4 & #5 at this div 5 race. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Scott got RU ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Bill was #2 at this div 6 race. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Brad won the race. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Scott was #2 qualifier at the Mile High Nats. But Michael won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Well, that gets us thru July. Since the season is aprox 10 months long, I assume that's more than half way. So, I'll stop this & do the rest of the season in the next post. Hey, the Pontiacs had a great 1st half, in 2012 ! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-10-2020 at 12:25 AM.