Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Tom Meyer · 12-06-2020, 04:37 PM

On rebuild, go back to a gm dealer for all of your parts they have best prices and good parts. Gm head gaskets are thinner than aftermarkets. The head responded to more air flow with less valve angle [30*] on a flow bench but never did a back to back on dyno.
But I am sure a good stocker valve job would help. For cooling just take the middle of the thermostat out run a wire to the cooling relay to a toggle switch and you will keep it under 140 all day. I think you could keep this dime rocket build under a nickel. We have a lot of spare parts if you need anything let me know. We have a claim rule that another racer can claim your whole car for 1500. dollars so you have do builds as cheep as possible. Tom

Billy Nees · 12-06-2020, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Meyer

We have a claim rule that another racer can claim your whole car for 1500. dollars so you have do builds as cheep as possible. Tom

Now THAT is a rule I would LOVE to see in STOCK Eliminator!!!!! But if that ever came to be, my life expectancy would be measured in minutes.

Tom Meyer · 12-07-2020, 11:47 PM

More stuff. Did you know that cavilers had three different spring packages for ride and handling. I think you could keep your weak springs in the front but go with heavier in the rear or stack 1/2 washers under the rear rear strut mounts and adding spring rubbers too, keeping more to the front and giving the car some front rake. Also make sure your rear struts are not leaking and are hard to compress. If you are doing stuff too the trans, welding the spiders may be a option, but you will have to get the front alignment right so it rolls easy. More to come. Tom

Billy Nees · 12-08-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Meyer

More stuff. Did you know that cavilers had three different spring packages for ride and handling. I think you could keep your weak springs in the front but go with heavier in the rear or stack 1/2 washers under the rear rear strut mounts and adding spring rubbers too, keeping more to the front and giving the car some front rake. Also make sure your rear struts are not leaking and are hard to compress. If you are doing stuff too the trans, welding the spiders may be a option, but you will have to get the front alignment right so it rolls easy. More to come. Tom

With the wheel/tire combo that's on the car it definitely has a forward rake. I've had to raise the front slightly to get to the 3" minimum ground clearance.

A million years ago, I played with "welding spiders" in a FWD car. That won't happen again.

Mark Yacavone · 12-08-2020, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

A million years ago, I played with "welding spiders" in a FWD car. That won't happen again.

Times 2 !

Tom Meyer · 12-08-2020, 08:49 PM

They do make LSD for these to. That would ruin the nickel part. We use spring rubbers on the dirt to make the car turn. Tom

vic guilmino · 12-09-2020, 11:38 AM

anybody like to help me tune my 2005 GTP cone air filter and high flow cat. i have a hp tuner with O2 hook up.

Dave Noll · 12-10-2020, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

A million years ago, I played with "welding spiders" in a FWD car. That won't happen again.

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Times 2 !

Would be interested to hear about these as I was toying with doing this on the Escort. Is it the torque steer or something else. I did find an lsd for it though.

Dave Gantz · 12-10-2020, 10:31 AM

Aren't welded spider gears illegal? I wouldn't want to be on either end of that law suit. (The one that could ensue when an accident occurs because a weld or gear broke.)

Billy Nees · 12-10-2020, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

Aren't welded spider gears illegal?

Yup. Under General Regulations 2:11 Rear End,Welded spider gear rear ends prohibited in all classes.

12-06-2020, 04:37 PM	#1
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 354 Times in 120 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! On rebuild, go back to a gm dealer for all of your parts they have best prices and good parts. Gm head gaskets are thinner than aftermarkets. The head responded to more air flow with less valve angle [30] on a flow bench but never did a back to back on dyno. But I am sure a good stocker valve job would help. For cooling just take the middle of the thermostat out run a wire to the cooling relay to a toggle switch and you will keep it under 140 all day. I think you could keep this dime rocket build under a nickel. We have a lot of spare parts if you need anything let me know. We have a claim rule that another racer can claim your whole car for 1500. dollars so you have do builds as cheep as possible. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ??? Last edited by Tom Meyer; 12-06-2020 at 04:58 PM.*

12-07-2020, 11:47 PM	#3
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 354 Times in 120 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! More stuff. Did you know that cavilers had three different spring packages for ride and handling. I think you could keep your weak springs in the front but go with heavier in the rear or stack 1/2 washers under the rear rear strut mounts and adding spring rubbers too, keeping more to the front and giving the car some front rake. Also make sure your rear struts are not leaking and are hard to compress. If you are doing stuff too the trans, welding the spiders may be a option, but you will have to get the front alignment right so it rolls easy. More to come. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ???

12-08-2020, 08:49 PM	#6
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 354 Times in 120 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! They do make LSD for these to. That would ruin the nickel part. We use spring rubbers on the dirt to make the car turn. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ???

12-09-2020, 11:38 AM	#7
vic guilmino Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: wv Posts: 884 Likes: 42 Liked 56 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! anybody like to help me tune my 2005 GTP cone air filter and high flow cat. i have a hp tuner with O2 hook up. __________________ Vic Guilmino 1129 STK

12-10-2020, 10:31 AM	#9
Dave Gantz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Verrry South Jersey Posts: 537 Likes: 134 Liked 251 Times in 125 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Aren't welded spider gears illegal? I wouldn't want to be on either end of that law suit. (The one that could ensue when an accident occurs because a weld or gear broke.)