Old School SG

[chebby2]

Some think stops should be banned. Steroids made home run heroes and baseball more exciting to watch just like big motors . Ed ,I really don't know where I'm going with this. LOL Ilike old school that's why I'm building a 63 chevy2 gasser to go with my sg car.I'm getting old....

[GaryGoFast]

Originally Posted by frank v

whats with all this " go back to the old days and get rid of throttle stops " crap?

Coming from a guy who's building a 170+ mph s/g car.

[dhmoore]

So let me get this right, your saying that the throttle stops make super class racing better ????????? all it did was make it easier for the ones with money to build bigger motors so they only had to think about was the finish line, less thinking less skill in my book!!! Do I take the line or dump him, 50/50 shot. It made some of us build bigger motors to race with these guys so we would be competitive. It is also not safe I have seen idiots with big motors chase down a guy, hammer the brakes and take out both cars..
THERE'S THE SAFETY SIDE

if we didn't have them, we wouldn't need $20.000 motors to be the fastest guy out there.. 565 ci to run 10.90 is stupid i have a 511 ci that's all i can afford at 10.90 140 is fast enough 9.90 155 also...
and all of the computer stuff that is out there that a racer needs now $$$$$$$$$
THERE'S THE COST SIDE

I'm not saying to put a mph on us, but it is getting out of hand we are loosing racers and fans, NO FANS NO MONEY..NO RACERS NO MONEY........


the average spectator dose not have a clue about class racing and you cant get the announcer to explain it to them, they don't care and don't have the time at a race, hell their even walking away during pro stock, bring on jr. dragster .......... sport compact, pro stock truck. all have gone by the wayside.. NHRA might be trying but i dont know what.. it is the times of today sorry..
THERE'S THE SPECTATOR SIDE

And ill say it out loud, there would be no (CHEATING) from someone you never herd of, or the ones that there names come up all the time, do not tell me that some of these so called gentlemen racers don't do it, it just gets so old when one of these men say its getting harder to win one of these things.. EVERY TIME THEY WIN ONE !!!! yes i have hit a 10.900 .000 lite and every one said were did that come from, and all you can say is the racing gods so it can happen. but round after round, i don't think so. you hear the car go up and down in rpm, you just look at the racer next to you and shake your head and say did i just hear and see that and walk a way in disgust..
THERE'S THE FUN FACT

there is a lot of manufactures out there that help us out. we need to let them know about these things don't you think... or are you running a throttle stop and cant think for your self????

[chebby2]

WOW, This thread started out making fun of Cohens BIG HAIR. Now were into cheating and people with too much money buying big motors etc. Most of us have seen it all, if you don't like the new stuff go back to a bolt stop. You can still win races...

[63corvette]

Being able to win a National Event old school style is still just as possible as anytime in the past. There are just not as many doing it the old way anymore so the laws of averages go with the new style racing.
Ted Seipel runs the old school and won the Las Vegas spring National Event.
Ted I believe is 75 years old or that is what they announced for the final and was running 23 year old Justin Lamb. Ted crossed the finish line at 116 MPH if I remember correctly and was looking back at Justin closing in on him very quickly. Justin crossed at 163 MPH again if I remember correctly and lost to Ted's old school ride.
You had to be there as the crowd went crazy when Ted's win light came on.
The older guy did it!!!! HIS WAY!!!
If fact in the last 6 cars at that event there were 2 running the old school way. Both were 70+ years old and both running old school style.
Both were using delay boxes and throttle stops just not big motor high dollar cars.
I enjoyed the racing and seeing the old guys do it their own way.
My 2 Cents Also an old guy.

[Rich Biebel]

I'm bored and on my 3rd beer...so I'll make a post.....All the modern stuff is just "Tools" that are used to help win races.....Almost everyone agrees that a faster car has an edge in drag racing. If you don't recognize this fact your blind as a bat,,,,You cannot look in 2 directions at one time and when racing is as close as it is today...being the faster car is an advantage. Not many drivers can win being out there in front....some can but that is a very small number of drivers. Big motors, weather stations and purpose built cars all help a racer win rounds. Nothing helps if you can't manage all the technology you have and none of it is just automatic.....Todays winners usually have a game plan and some are dialers and some are holders.......You can become successful with almost any setup but it's that little edge that gets you past the tough rounds. A lot of times the edge is the driver himself.......you can't buy that edge....It is just experience and a guys intuition. I think big motor Super racing is fine but I would like to see the indexes moved up. The cars are better, more powerful and safer so move the damn indexes up. It would reduce the t-stop event time and make for a better show....Move them up to 8.0, 9.0 and 10.0....Todays average dragster runs well into the 7's....most S/G cars are easily 8 second cars and S/ST is about the only categorie with people that are not always way under the index powerwise........



Pocono race was cancelled damn.....time for another beer.....LOL

[Bryan Gillespie]

I"ll drink to that !

[Michael Pliska]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I'm bored and on my 3rd beer...so I'll make a post.....All the modern stuff is just "Tools" that are used to help win races.....Almost everyone agrees that a faster car has an edge in drag racing. If you don't recognize this fact your blind as a bat,,,,You cannot look in 2 directions at one time and when racing is as close as it is today...being the faster car is an advantage. Not many drivers can win being out there in front....some can but that is a very small number of drivers. Big motors, weather stations and purpose built cars all help a racer win rounds. Nothing helps if you can't manage all the technology you have and none of it is just automatic.....Todays winners usually have a game plan and some are dialers and some are holders.......You can become successful with almost any setup but it's that little edge that gets you past the tough rounds. A lot of times the edge is the driver himself.......you can't buy that edge....It is just experience and a guys intuition. I think big motor Super racing is fine but I would like to see the indexes moved up. The cars are better, more powerful and safer so move the damn indexes up. It would reduce the t-stop event time and make for a better show....Move them up to 8.0, 9.0 and 10.0....Todays average dragster runs well into the 7's....most S/G cars are easily 8 second cars and S/ST is about the only categorie with people that are not always way under the index powerwise........



Pocono race was cancelled damn.....time for another beer.....LOL

I can't blame my post on beer, but maybe just because it's Monday...

How about taking the two doorslammer classes (S/G & S/ST) and eliminating timers? Then add a 7.90 class, so the people who like high MPH can race either 7.90 or 8.90? I know, NHRA is loathe to add another class, but maybe it would work.

S/G and S/ST could have something like the following rules:
Throttle stops may only be controlled by manual operator-activated switches, or switches mounted to the car's shifter. This may include activation by the car's transmission brake switch. Delay boxes are allowed only for delaying the release of the transmission brake, and may not be used for shifting the transmission or activating the throttle stop.

I wonder what kind of speeds a current 170 mph S/G car would run if it were only on the throttle stop in 1st gear?

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

rules are as they say "it is what it is"
BUT better make your cars where they can run T/S & T/D when needed cause i can see what is coming already.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson

rules are as they say "it is what it is"
BUT better make your cars where they can run T/S & T/D when needed cause i can see what is coming already.

I can see it also Joe. Those that dont just dont have thier eyes open.