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Old 05-30-2008, 02:32 PM   #11
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he got 12
Unless I am missing something, he got 20. For a 428 '67 Shelby the stock hp was 355 and it was lowered to 350 on 2/16/06; it was raised to 370 on 5/26/08 as a result of Adkins' run. By my math; 350 to 370 is 20.
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:40 PM   #12
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Rather than changing the indexes,

What if they just starting giving head starts off of them rather than allowing Dial Ins and the first one to the stripe wins? Would be a lot simpler right? And give every round that heads-up feel!

But I bet the car counts would drop even faster than they will with $8.00 a gallon diesel.
The car counts would also drop because guys like Dan Fletcher and Kevin Helms, who run their cars fairly conservatively, ( 50 - 75 under), wouldn't stand a chance. They would have to change their current way of racing or stay home.
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The fast will still be fast.

AUTOMATIC HP is given at -1.40, a "review" is triggered at -1.15...so to me, lowering the index---if indeed it is the case is a good thing. My combo got hit both times last year---a total of 10Hp. Until I see something in print, it's just a typical internet rumor.

It's still a shoe polish race (minus a heads-up run).
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:28 PM   #14
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The car counts would also drop because guys like Dan Fletcher and Kevin Helms, who run their cars fairly conservatively, ( 50 - 75 under), wouldn't stand a chance. They would have to change their current way of racing or stay home.
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Do you really think, these guys can't go a lot faster. If they want to.
Going fast can be achieved in two ways.
One by spending more money (wisely, time spent learning to make a combo go fast counts as money) than the next guy.
Two. Pick a soft combo or class.
I can guarantee anyone capable of winning is capable of going fast.
Even I have gone fast. But I haven't won on my own.
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:40 PM   #15
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Default Re: 1.40 under index HP adjustments

i dont know what it started at but atkins has been running on a 358 factor. before that he was 364ish but it was improperly hit by nhra and lowered back to 358.
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Old 05-30-2008, 08:48 PM   #16
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Tony, I thought it was very clear....the indexes are 30 years old, it is time to get real and put racing back into Stock/SS. If you can't run at least .20 to .30 under, you need to either re-think about changing your sport or get to work. No one is forced to run any combo that could never run .20 to .30 under....and no one said that drag racing was a cheap sport to get into.....so, if class racing is a bit hard or expensive, start with bracket racing at the local track and decide where, how, and why....many class racers started that way. Class racing (Stock/SS) was always performance rewarded and it needs to return to exactly that.


Very well put, I bracket raced at my local track for 12 years before building a stocker. Definitely big $$$ and work to get started and to be fast but thats just what it takes. Later
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:18 PM   #17
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Do you really think, these guys can't go a lot faster. If they want to.
Going fast can be achieved in two ways.
One by spending more money (wisely, time spent learning to make a combo go fast counts as money) than the next guy.
Two. Pick a soft combo or class.
I can guarantee anyone capable of winning is capable of going fast.
Even I have gone fast. But I haven't won on my own.
I never said they weren't capable of going a lot faster; my point was they would have to change their current way of running their combo conservatively.
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