OLD Modified Corvettes

[Carguy49]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

Interesting side note, this car is being reassembled by a group of his old friends. It is being put back to its MP configuration and appears to be pretty close to its appearance back at that time. This was no small undertaking as the body looked like Humpty Dumpty after the crash, a million very small pieces of fiberglass had to be grafted back together.

Jim, is there any updates on the Corvette of Terry. It would be very cool to see that car completed and on display.

[lynn engels]

ALL I CAN SAY IS WOWWWWW, you got to love the experts, mr gtx john and mr im no expert cates if your so smart on corvettes what year is my superstocker pictured on page 3 of this article the saddle tan one and my stocker on page 6 the red one. believe me if doug engels says its a 63 thats what it started life as.:

[2021STK]

Originally Posted by 63corvette

In this case looks are not deceiving.
Can you tell by my screen name I should know a 63 when I see it.
First off no split window in the rear glass. 63 was the only year with a split window.
Second the fender well has multi vent slots some call it a 5 slot.
The 66 model fenders had a 3 slot.
Other mid years have insets not slots.
I have owned all of the mid year models over the years and currently have a 67 427 roadster. My favorite.
I am no expert however, it is a1967 body shown no doubts.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX aka 63 Corvette

Might be a collection of various years & parts in addition the to above:

'65 Rocker panel moldings
Roof 66 or 67 no vents behind door glass
63-66 rear light panel, 67 had backup light over license plate
67 style brake lights, no backup lens
66 gas lid door

Still a very nice car, kinda like my swap meet special '66ish coupe.

[63corvette]

Originally Posted by lynn engels

ALL I CAN SAY IS WOWWWWW, you got to love the experts, mr gtx john and mr im no expert cates if your so smart on corvettes what year is my superstocker pictured on page 3 of this article the saddle tan one and my stocker on page 6 the red one. believe me if doug engels says its a 63 thats what it started life as.:

I would say your saddle tan is a 63 as it has all the right things.
The red one also looks right.
So what is your point.
All I did was point out the pictures shown as a 63 is missing many items which should make it a 63. Split window and fender slots which is telling is all I pointed out.
Yes I am no expert as you so dramatically pointed out however, I have owned a number of original mid year corvette's. The split window is the first thing that makes the 63 a 63 and the one we are discussing is missing that.
I owned and raced a 63 split window for many years with an original body down to the LOF glass in the windows except the windshield. I had restorers try to buy the LOF glass in the split windows at the race track several times.
You can call a car anything you like however, that does not make that claim any more correct one way or the other.
By the way looks like dedracer edited his post as I was responding as it no longer calls the car a 63.
Not my car so call it anything you like and I will do the same.
If I can get a picture to load I will list my 63 split window below I raced for years and wished I still owned.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

[63corvette]

Lynn Engles, I think you mistook the car we were discussing.
After making my post I went back and the red and gold corvette listed as currently owned by LJ Engles is NOT the one we were discussing.
Those pictures were also posted by dedracer.
It is the white one we were discussing in Post # 436 that I quoted in my response.
Quote: Post # 436
Originally Posted by dedracer View Post
Schnelker & Losher G/gas 63 Corvette from Fort Wayne Indiana, probably the best time capsule I've ever come across, was parked around 1973. Still retains the 287 & Doug Nash trans it was last raced with.
Dedracer has now edited out the 63 out of his post # 436.
I think he realized he created a controversy by showing it as a 63.
Let me know what you think.
I post on here to make friends not enemies and your post made me think you thought of me as the latter.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

[lynn engels]

mr cates i know which car i was talking about , your first sentence was in this case looks are not decieving ,well sir they are if you look it still has the stock front window trim, 63 only, but what you cant see is the title and trim and vin tag that prove it started out as a 63, your second sentence,can you tell by my screen name i should know a 63 when i see it, well if that was the case you said my superstocker was a 63 as it has all the right things, well wrong as it doesnt have the front window trim and it is a 64 . you also said my stocker looks right , well once again its run as a 67 but its a 65, one of your other sentences , so what is your point, my point is not everything is as it looks corvettes have been one the most popular race cars since the beginning so if you wanted to chg classes you just chged the vents or louveres to make it what ever want so if you cut out the back window of a 63 and put in 67 louveres and call it a 67 and its still titled a 63 as it started i would say its still a 63, one more example is the car posted by chopperloco has 67 vents but its not a 67,but then again my brother had a 61 that was titled as 58 that was bought right from a chevy dealer so what year would that be, i could go on and on but im starting to sound like the experts which i definatley am not and dont want to be. but i do love old corvette race cars whatever year you want to call them.

[jackal396]

Originally Posted by dedracer

Former Jackson Family Corvette now owned by LJ Engels, lots of recent updates including new roll cage, suspension upgrades, re-wired & plumbed, new interior etc. Hopefully will see some super stock action this summer.

WOW this is just a stunning car.


jp

[GTX JOHN]

NHRA rulebook has stated for as Long as I can remember:

All Trim / Sheetmetal and components must match the year claimed in
Stock and Superstock except the VIN does not have to be change to
that year any customizing limited to paint only(Paraphrased from memory).

I have often changed the year on my Demon for the engine combo
that I want to run in the last 30 years. NHRA accepts the year I claim on tech card
as long as the different pieces match the year I present it to be =

VIN and year on title are not relevant to this matter just the presentation
of pieces on the vehicle.

[Frank Castros]

All C2 Corvettes are stunning and ALL of Mr. Engel's cars amazing.

[63corvette]

Originally Posted by 63corvette

That body sure looks like a 1967 to me!
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

mr cates i know which car i was talking about , your first sentence was in this case looks are not decieving ,well sir they are if you look it still has the stock front window trim, 63 only, but what you cant see is the title and trim and vin tag that prove it started out as a 63, your second sentence,can you tell by my screen name i should know a 63 when i see it, well if that was the case you said my superstocker was a 63 as it has all the right things, well wrong as it doesnt have the front window trim and it is a 64 . you also said my stocker looks right , well once again its run as a 67 but its a 65, one of your other sentences , so what is your point, my point is not everything is as it looks corvettes have been one the most popular race cars since the beginning so if you wanted to chg classes you just chged the vents or louveres to make it what ever want so if you cut out the back window of a 63 and put in 67 louveres and call it a 67 and its still titled a 63 as it started i would say its still a 63, one more example is the car posted by chopperloco has 67 vents but its not a 67,but then again my brother had a 61 that was titled as 58 that was bought right from a chevy dealer so what year would that be, i could go on and on but im starting to sound like the experts which i definatley am not and dont want to be. but i do love old corvette race cars whatever year you want to call them.
lynn engels is offline

Lynn, my first comment is above and it states "That body sure looks like a 67 to me."
I was talking about the body not the trim or the vin tag just the body style.
I raced the original body 63 for many years before retirement in S/G and SST.
I was just not that competitive and moved up to a full round tube and more HP than it was able to support.
I own a 67 original street car and I currently race a Don Davis C5 roadster in Super Gas. The C5 was built in 2007 and I use that year on my tech cards as its year.
I left stock class racing in the 60's to get married and raise a family however, I still watch Stock and Super Stock when at the races as time permits.
We have been friends with the Cotton's for years. We were parked next to them many years ago and have been friends since. Mike and Paula are just great people and I am proud to call them friends. I do not care what brand someone races it is all about the races and the friends you make at the races. We have made race friends all over the country and into Canada since retirement.
I remember when the red corvette, you mentioned in the photo from page 6 was awarded the Best Engineered award in Las Vegas. I was there racing and looked at it and it was nice.
I am on the forum to learn things about the racing and the racing community and possibly make a few new friends. And like I stated earlier not to make enemies. I just took your first comments about me not being an expert as having made enemy. I hope that is not the case. I am old and have lots of experience in lots of different things however, I am not an expert in anything. That is all I was trying to state.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX