Think about this.........

442OLDS · 12-20-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

What is going to happen when Biondo, DeFrank, Fletcher, and the rest get pummeled by the Ford CJ,and the DP Challenger in semi finals in a heads up run.

Maybe they will get hired by Ford or Mopar to be hired guns to drive the new models.Then the factories will be assured of seeing their new vehicles in the winner's circle?

Just a thought......

P.S.

Bracket racing format is what has made SS/S as popular as it is.If it was all heads up,participation would drop by a HUGE amount!

Evan Smith · 12-20-2009, 06:44 PM

I love working on my car, as most do, and I love the heads-up portion of Stock and SS. Here is an observation: I woud guess that 99 percent of the talk on this site is about performance, rules and the competitiveness of different combinations, however, 95 percent of the racing we do is bracket racing.

For all the talk about the CJ, Challengers and other so-called out-of-line combos, how many people have lost a heads-up race to one of these cars? I bet the number is very few and the percentage is very low.

On the topic of value, we race beacuse we love racing and many of us have an emotional attachment to the cars we race. I doubt any car has been devalued by any other combination. I don't think there is a line of people waiting to buy fast Stocker, just becaue they "own" a class. And if that is your motivation, go build a car that is a winner out of the gate. It is done in NASCAR and other forms of motorsports.

SS Engine Guy · 12-20-2009, 06:56 PM

No car has been devalued by another combination. Only the obviously low hp factors ASSigned to other combinations.

randy wilson · 12-20-2009, 07:06 PM

dial in racing has hurt drag racing whether we like to admit it or not. that and the cost. i remember when only class winners were allowed to run in eliminations with no breakout and there were more cars in a single class than there is at some div. now.some people went to several nats. without a chance to race sunday, but it was exciting. now, you have to bring a crowd with you just to have someone to show off to.

SuperStockDodge · 12-20-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randy wilson

dial in racing has hurt drag racing whether we like to admit it or not. that and the cost. i remember when only class winners were allowed to run in eliminations with no breakout and there were more cars in a single class than there is at some div. now.some people went to several nats. without a chance to race sunday, but it was exciting. now, you have to bring a crowd with you just to have someone to show off to.

Randy, i have sent you a PM

Sean

Ken Miele · 12-20-2009, 09:12 PM

Dale,

You might be an old retired S/SS racer, but you're still funny.

Jeff Teuton · 12-20-2009, 09:16 PM

Watch that term "old". You are getting real close now. Especially from a Ford guy.

Larry Hill · 12-20-2009, 09:14 PM

Sorry Dale

Alan Roehrich · 12-20-2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Sorry Dale

Damn it Larry, you're always starting trouble. And now you got me in it.

Urraco · 12-27-2009, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randy wilson

dial in racing has hurt drag racing whether we like to admit it or not. that and the cost. i remember when only class winners were allowed to run in eliminations with no breakout and there were more cars in a single class than there is at some div. now.some people went to several nats. without a chance to race sunday, but it was exciting. now, you have to bring a crowd with you just to have someone to show off to.

Very true. People dont want to see bracket racing and sandbagging at national events, but what is the answer?

12-20-2009, 06:44 PM	#2
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 400 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Think about this......... I love working on my car, as most do, and I love the heads-up portion of Stock and SS. Here is an observation: I woud guess that 99 percent of the talk on this site is about performance, rules and the competitiveness of different combinations, however, 95 percent of the racing we do is bracket racing. For all the talk about the CJ, Challengers and other so-called out-of-line combos, how many people have lost a heads-up race to one of these cars? I bet the number is very few and the percentage is very low. On the topic of value, we race beacuse we love racing and many of us have an emotional attachment to the cars we race. I doubt any car has been devalued by any other combination. I don't think there is a line of people waiting to buy fast Stocker, just becaue they "own" a class. And if that is your motivation, go build a car that is a winner out of the gate. It is done in NASCAR and other forms of motorsports. __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK

12-20-2009, 06:56 PM	#3
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Think about this......... No car has been devalued by another combination. Only the obviously low hp factors ASSigned to other combinations.

12-20-2009, 07:06 PM	#4
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Think about this......... dial in racing has hurt drag racing whether we like to admit it or not. that and the cost. i remember when only class winners were allowed to run in eliminations with no breakout and there were more cars in a single class than there is at some div. now.some people went to several nats. without a chance to race sunday, but it was exciting. now, you have to bring a crowd with you just to have someone to show off to. __________________ don,t have one

12-20-2009, 09:12 PM	#6
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,953 Likes: 489 Liked 17,787 Times in 1,613 Posts	Re: Think about this......... Dale, You might be an old retired S/SS racer, but you're still funny.

12-20-2009, 09:16 PM	#7
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Think about this......... Watch that term "old". You are getting real close now. Especially from a Ford guy. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK Last edited by Jeff Teuton; 12-20-2009 at 09:17 PM. Reason: added something

12-20-2009, 09:14 PM	#8
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,685 Likes: 1,994 Liked 11,030 Times in 2,266 Posts	Re: Think about this......... Sorry Dale __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

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