Who was the first 10 sec. stick Stocker and

[Jeff Colvert]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

The 10 sec runs for Tony's car was in an article in SS&DI in Feb. '71, IIRC. There were pictures of the time slips from ATCO at the divisional race in the Fall of 1970. That article was the inspiration for my changing my '67 Camaro from a Z28 to a 396.

The first iteration of Kent's 302 was in that car and ran 11.19@121 in 1982. Kent bought it in 1985 and he did much better with it than I did.

Yea but Dwight when you put that BB in your car that put you in a whole new ball game with some pretty strong players. So who had the baddest C&D car in the country back then??

Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456

[GTX JOHN]

Ken: I believe you are correct that you had the first small block auto in the 10's. I was there and watched your pass! I was then racing and still run a 340 car, so I watched everybody pretty close in mid 90's and never heard of another car going that fast at either a divisional or National event!! PS: I recall numerous articles and ads that stated Jim Waldo had first stocker in 10's although I didn't observe that run myself...........................By the way if it wasn't for Al and Ken Etters help we would have quit Stock Eliminator after the first few races. Irving Family Racing:

[Dinsdale]

Pretty sure it was Jim Waldo as well. Someone else will have to help with the date. Appears he's won a few times.

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by Jeff Colvert

Yea but Dwight when you put that BB in your car that put you in a whole new ball game with some pretty strong players. So who had the baddest C&D car in the country back then??

Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456

Jeff, what are you getting at? Are you wanting some attention paid to the CJs? All I remember was taking the D record away from SE with the 302 !! LOL!!

[bsa633]

It Was some fuzz when Bobby D ran first in the 9's at mission that Waldo did his first in the 10's almost exactly 20 years before(i think) or something That is i guess under current(evolving) rules....what was different with the car Mark Y talk about and the rules back then?

[Chuck Norton]

Originally Posted by bsa633

....what was different with the car Mark Y talk about and the rules back then?

There were a few differences. I don't remember all of them but I'm sure that someone does. Among the ones that I recall:

1. Tires - 7" in 1971 v. 9" in 1978
2. Pistons - Unrestricted on weight and valve relief in 1971 v. factory piston in 1978
3. Allowable overbore - .060 in 1971 v. .030? in 1978 (things were changing pretty fast in '78. I'm not sure on the overbore rule at that point in time.

What else am I forgetting?

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Chuck Norton

There were a few differences. I don't remember all of them but I'm sure that someone does. Among the ones that I recall:

1. Tires - 7" in 1971 v. 9" in 1978
2. Pistons - Unrestricted on weight and valve relief in 1971 v. factory piston in 1978
3. Allowable overbore - .060 in 1971 v. .030? in 1978 (things were changing pretty fast in '78. I'm not sure on the overbore rule at that point in time.

What else am I forgetting?

What about weight brakes and cars that were allowed..
unrestricted on valve relief? in that case what about cams?

[Chuck Norton]

I believe that the camshaft rules would have been roughly the same for a Stocker in 1971 as in 1978. Stock lift, duration, and overlap specs were enforced in both instances.

The piston in 1971 would have been required to have only the reliefs placed where they were needed for valve/piston clearance and they would have been no deeper than required for actual valve clearance. In 1978 the piston top would have been required to conform to the factory configuration.

I don't have a '71 Rulebook and I don't know what horsepower ratings were established in either instance. The Corvette appears to me to have been a '66 while Jim's car was a '67 Fairlane, I believe. The Corvette (if it was a '66) would have been a 427 with a single Holley. Jim's car might have been either a single or dual quad motor. It seems to me that he ran it both ways at various times but most commonly with a single carburetor.

[bsa633]

Thanks Chuck

Originally Posted by Chuck Norton

The Corvette (if it was a '66) would have been a 427 with a single Holley.

see that it has a 7.49 factor at 425hp, and would have been exluded until AA come along..Just trying to establish why no 10 runs seem to be made between 71 and 78..
...7 inch tires and stock duration cam..thats impressive!
Cya in 3 weeks!

[Jeff Colvert]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Jeff, what are you getting at? Are you wanting some attention paid to the CJs? All I remember was taking the D record away from SE with the 302 !! LOL!!

Hey Dwight, If I remember correctly it was 1983 Green Valley you blasted doun the track with a 11.30 something for the record, only to give it up to S.E. & Kuntz when they made their run behind you a blistering 11.27. Little did you know that they had worked on the old CJ every night for a week getting it as perfect as it could be. I had also set my first SS/G record that weekend. LOL Are we having fun?

Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456
1983 10.51 @ na
2009 9.482 @ 140.53