New AHFS

[GUMP]

My suggestion to all is to reach out to the NHRA with your thoughts. There are other changes being discussed.

As a side note, the change in the mineshaft rule was proposed by our representatives....

[J.R. Haddad]

Gump, I have the utmost respect for you, and I think Lonnie is the best
thing to happen to NHRA in a long time, I am hearing a familiar theme.
That theme is that the Stock/Super Stock council asked for the change.
In the past, when we have asked our division reps if this was factual, we
have been told that "No, we did not put that request forward." I am not
suggesting that this happened in regard to the AHFS change, but I
think it is incumbent on us to check on this with our respective reps, and
establish a system with each Division, where we are sent a copy of the
requests that are being put forward, so we can discuss the ramifications
of these changes, and then vote on them. That way we will not be blind sided by a surprise change. In a perfect transparent world, we should find
the year end rule changes boring, as we would be more up to speed
as to what ALL division reps are asking for, and which ones WE had agreed to.

J.R.

[countrypuppy4865]

I agree about Lonnie. He is probably one of few people in charge that I feel like he would actually listen to what you have to say and take consideration in whatever matter it may be. I’m really unsure as to why our representatives would suggest that. I feel like a majority of input from people who are active racers would be better. How about polls that could also be considered with other factors?

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865

I agree about Lonnie. He is probably one of few people in charge that I feel like he would actually listen to what you have to say and take consideration in whatever matter it may be. I’m really unsure as to why our representatives would suggest that. I feel like a majority of input from people who are active racers would be better. How about polls that could also be considered with other factors?

Jimmy I would hope that our Reps didn't suggest this. But as we know the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Are there more complaints about combo's that are underrated? Not sure if a poll would help. Not long ago there was a poll about not having the AHFS in place for Indy. The poll was overwhelmingly to have Indy without the AHFS in place. Both with current racers and members. Did our Reps look at it? My friend that races Stock suggested to Dave Mohn at the Cecil County Divisional that we at least have Indy every other year without the AHFS. Dave did say if he received enough email about it, he would consider supporting it. My same friend had recently called California about another issue but suggested the same thing about Indy. He said the person was in favor of no AHFS at Indy and that he was into the performance end of Stock. Not sure if it was Lonnie he was talking to.

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by B Parker

Jimmy I would hope that our Reps didn't suggest this. But as we know the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Are there more complaints about combo's that are underrated? Not sure if a poll would help. Not long ago there was a poll about not having the AHFS in place for Indy. The poll was overwhelmingly to have Indy without the AHFS in place. Both with current racers and members. Did our Reps look at it? My friend that races Stock suggested to Dave Mohn at the Cecil County Divisional that we at least have Indy every other year without the AHFS. Dave did say if he received enough email about it, he would consider supporting it. My same friend had recently called California about another issue but suggested the same thing about Indy. He said the person was in favor of no AHFS at Indy and that he was into the performance end of Stock. Not sure if it was Lonnie he was talking to.

Barry do you remember at Cecil what Kent Hanley our rep asked in the staging lanes?

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

Barry do you remember at Cecil what Kent Hanley our rep asked in the staging lanes?

He asked me if we should lower the indexes? Not sure what all answered. I did hear several tell him to leave it alone. Don't think asking racers at one race especially Cecil County is the way to do it. This is not a knock-on Ken but I would rather they send an email to current racers with a questioner about several of the topics currently being talked about. I've never written a letter to anyone from NHRA nor one of our reps. After being involved with Stock for over 45 years I'm overdue. If anyone has the emails for all of the Stock/ Super Stock reps along with Lonnie's could you post them. Thanks Barry

[B Parker]

Glen you guys have been around for a long time. Your cars are always fast. And you do a bunch of work for Stockers. What's your thoughts on the new rule? BP

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by B Parker

He asked me if we should lower the indexes? Not sure what all answered. I did hear several tell him to leave it alone. Don't think asking racers at one race especially Cecil County is the way to do it. This is not a knock-on Ken but I would rather they send an email to current racers with a questioner about several of the topics currently being talked about. I've never written a letter to anyone from NHRA nor one of our reps. After being involved with Stock for over 45 years I'm overdue. If anyone has the emails for all of the Stock/ Super Stock reps along with Lonnie's could you post them. Thanks Barry

Yes Barry I think everyone currently racing stock and superstock should have a vote on what a proposed rule change might be.

[SS/GSI]

I would hope that our Reps didn't suggest this. But as we know the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Are there more complaints about combo's that are underrated? Not sure if a poll would help. Not long ago there was a poll about not having the AHFS in place for Indy. The poll was overwhelmingly to have Indy without the AHFS in place. Both with current racers and members. Did our Reps look at it? My friend that races Stock suggested to Dave Mohn at the Cecil County Divisional that we at least have Indy every other year without the AHFS. Dave did say if he received enough email about it, he would consider supporting it. My same friend had recently called California about another issue but suggested the same thing about Indy. He said the person was in favor of no AHFS at Indy and that he was into the performance end of Stock. Not sure if it was Lonnie he was talking to.[/QUOTE]


This entire rule/rule change is a personal agenda from those within a small group of competitors, NHRA's SRAC Committee(not ours) and a selected few at NHRA itself. As you said, the squeaky wheel gets the grease! We did have a poll earlier this year in regards to AHFS at Indy and nobody listened to us...especially "our" SRAC Reps. When do SRAC Reps come up for re-election...or is this a lifetime position? I have been having issues getting an answer on this from NHRA, LMAO...I guess they like what they are hearing from them. Do you think its a coincidence that these rule changes keep targeting a select few and leaving out the masses? The AHFS just put out 23 HP changes between stock and SS at the end of this year...ya I guess its really broken!

IF NHRA and the SRAC/Special Interest Group of Competitors wants to just give certain combos HP, then just MAN THE F@#K UP and do it! You got your brothers in the tech department to add in "at NHRA's discretion"!!! So just post 20, 30 or 40 more HP on which ever combo you don't like! You wonder why our world is going to ****....its because we cater to the minority groups....you want equality in racing, there are 3 super classes to participate in.

Obviously at -.95under mineshaft is gone in STK. How the f@#k do you expect half the field to squeeze into 5 hun before "running it out" Q2! Like I said before, if you want more HP given out, raise the amount of review periods and bring back more class runoffs! Its mind boggling how "some people" think that competitors will just destroy their combinations just for the hell of it. HOW DID INDY WORK OUT FOR YA'S THIS YEAR!

I hope that Mr. Grim will do the right thing; however the proof is in your actions, not interviews in the ND or PRI. And if Lonnie says he will listen to the competitors concerns...we should be extremely worried about who has his ear....cuz so far the wrong people have had NHRA's attention.

As for the use of 660' and 1000' increments in the AHFS system, I call out whomever at NHRA to please inform the competitors, WHO will be calculating the back half splits?!?! No offense, but the people at NHRA with knowledge do not get listened to and those who know nothing and are overcompensated, get center stage for decision making; therefore I am extremely concerned as to "WHO" this special person is!...IMHO

Rant over....please whine away!

[Glenn Briglio]

Barry Parker pm sent