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Old 02-26-2009, 03:51 PM   #1
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You were able to order them. They were built ready to race. Those are facts that I thought everyone in the discussion understood.
I dont think anyone can..or should i say "could have" bought them..sure looked like a "closed" deal to me.
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:30 PM   #2
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I dont think anyone can..or should i say "could have" bought them..sure looked like a "closed" deal to me.
"The Cobra Jet Mustang (M-FR500-CJ) joins Ford Racing's two successful road racing Mustangs, the M-FR500-C and M-FR500-S, as turn-key race cars available only from Ford Dealers. We encourage you to take advantage of this unique opportunity to help rewrite history by ordering and campaining this new race car". (Ford Racing)
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:23 PM   #3
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I dont think anyone can..or should i say "could have" bought them..sure looked like a "closed" deal to me.
It's not to late ro order a 2010 Cobra Jet. http://www.fordracingparts.com/mustang/herocard10.asp.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:04 PM   #5
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It's not to late ro order a 2010 Cobra Jet. http://www.fordracingparts.com/mustang/herocard10.asp.
So "average Joe" can run from the stands and order a new 2010 CJ and take it on the streets next year? That would make it legitimit next year...What about these 2008's...how many on this board(exept hardcore Ford racers )new in 2007 to early 08 that you could get one of these and run Stock eliminator with one like it happened?
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...What about these 2008's...how many on this board(exept hardcore Ford racers )new in 2007 to early 08 that you could get one of these and run Stock eliminator with one like it happened?


Probably about as many that knew about single 4 barrel 65 Hemi's or 67 L-88 vettes or 98 LT-1 F bodies.

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Probably about as many that knew about single 4 barrel 65 Hemi's or 67 L-88 vettes or 98 LT-1 F bodies.
Im not bashing the Hemi,s as I happen to like them BUT Mother Mopar never made a single carb Hemi car in 1965 (hard top or sedan) on the PRODUCTION line. Mopar only made ONE special order all steel bodied Dodge 2-door hard top in 1964 (a 4-speed) on the PRODUCTION line that had a X Ram iron head Hemi. All of those NASCAR combinations with one carb were delivered to race shops as seperate engines and boddies for round track purpose. None were produced on a production line to be sold to the average "Joe" for the street. THe other X RAM cars were production runs. Even today they are allowed an intake manifold and carb other than what was used in NASCAR but who really cares? They are neat and are another combo to build that has been OK'ed by the NHRA. The L-88 Corvettes are another story. The accually produced 20 (17 are known to still exist...3 with thier original engines) on the production line and sold them to the public. That is documented. The rest of them that show up at auctions, or other venues, etc. and were raced are cars put together by race teams back in the good ole days by either buying an engine or were given engines thru some sponsorship agreements. Even the ONLY known L-88 1966 Corvette raced in SCCA was a factory project that started out as a regular 427/425 HP car and later switched to an L-88 project test vehicle. The 98 LT-1's I have no knowlege of as they are late modle FI computer cars. Detroit went out of business makeing "REAL" cars in 1971 when the last HEMI was installed in a 'Cuda or Challenger. THe rest since then are just transportation produced like TV,s and refrigerators for public consumption.....lol.

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On the 1967 Corvette L-88, Chevrolet and GM claim to have produced and sold 36 to the general public, and there are claims, Chevrolet and GM will neither confirm nor deny, that there were some 25-30 given to or sold at reduced prices to road racers receiving back door support through Vince Piggins and Zora Arkus-Duntov. The legitimacy of those claims (NHRA accepts the 36 from Chevrolet and GM) depends on who you talk to. The L-88 option included a radio and heater delete, so the car wasn't intended to be street driven.

The new Mustang subject has been beaten to death, and we're no better or worse off. At this point, there is little anyone can do except race.
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On the 1967 Corvette L-88, Chevrolet and GM claim to have produced and sold 36 to the general public, and there are claims, Chevrolet and GM will neither confirm nor deny, that there were some 25-30 given to or sold at reduced prices to road racers receiving back door support through Vince Piggins and Zora Arkus-Duntov. The legitimacy of those claims (NHRA accepts the 36 from Chevrolet and GM) depends on who you talk to. The L-88 option included a radio and heater delete, so the car wasn't intended to be street driven.

The new Mustang subject has been beaten to death, and we're no better or worse off. At this point, there is little anyone can do except race.
Just wanted to clear up. GM produce 16-36 (depends who you talk to) 1967 L-88
1968 they produced over 100 (I think it was 108)
1969 112
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Im not bashing the Hemi,s as I happen to like them BUT Mother Mopar never made a single carb Hemi car in 1965 (hard top or sedan) on the PRODUCTION line. Mopar only made ONE special order all steel bodied Dodge 2-door hard top in 1964 (a 4-speed) on the PRODUCTION line that had a X Ram iron head Hemi. All of those NASCAR combinations with one carb were delivered to race shops as seperate engines and boddies for round track purpose. None were produced on a production line to be sold to the average "Joe" for the street. THe other X RAM cars were production runs. Even today they are allowed an intake manifold and carb other than what was used in NASCAR but who really cares? They are neat and are another combo to build that has been OK'ed by the NHRA. The L-88 Corvettes are another story. The accually produced 20 (17 are known to still exist...3 with thier original engines) on the production line and sold them to the public. That is documented. The rest of them that show up at auctions, or other venues, etc. and were raced are cars put together by race teams back in the good ole days by either buying an engine or were given engines thru some sponsorship agreements. Even the ONLY known L-88 1966 Corvette raced in SCCA was a factory project that started out as a regular 427/425 HP car and later switched to an L-88 project test vehicle. The 98 LT-1's I have no knowlege of as they are late modle FI computer cars. Detroit went out of business makeing "REAL" cars in 1971 when the last HEMI was installed in a 'Cuda or Challenger. THe rest since then are just transportation produced like TV,s and refrigerators for public consumption.....lol.

You are right about the '65 Hemi not being "line" production cars and them showing up in stock kinda made my Max Wedge car look weak.

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