Challenger H/P rating - Page 2

magnumv8 · 03-11-2009, 07:56 PM

The Challengers being "package cars" of which only 50 need to be built to be approved by NHRA DO NOT have to have the factory stock heads,intakes, etc, that a legal "stocker" is required to have.....they are required to have the parts Chrysler tells NHRA that they installed when they left the facility.....I have seen the engines in the cars and the hood scoop was required to clear the huge hi-rise intake and 4 hole throttle body on top, NHRA wants the scoop changed for the approval....The "07" 6.1 was rated 370hp by Chrysler and factored to 420hp by NHRA.....in testing the et. being run by the Challenger equates to approx. 600hp for 6.1 auto package....like the '68 package cars I think you will see a lot of attention paid to the performance of the new Dodge and Ford cars as everyone gets more time to tweak them to the max....the microscope is polished and has a big NHRA eyeball in it.....

magnumv8 · 03-11-2009, 08:13 PM

That Challenger does not appear to be a "package car" (you can see the factory engine on the floor...these cars are to leave the "factory" already modified ready to be personalized....the Indy engine is right from Indy.....probably a lot bigger than a 6.1 and has 2600 cfm of throttle bodies on it.....

GUMP · 03-11-2009, 08:15 PM

Do they have to build fifty of each? If so, I wonder how long it would take for each to be legal? Keep in mind that the customers got to choose which motor. I bet that most orders were for the 6.1.

magnumv8 · 03-11-2009, 09:30 PM

No one has been real clear on that yet....According to Chrysler the cars can be ordered by part # and there is supposed to be 6 part #'s......each engine with either a 4sp or auto......according to the rulebook the special run of "50" units says only on an already accepted "body" style doesn't mention drivetrain.....

rx dealer · 03-11-2009, 09:35 PM

Tom, the horsepower ratings are for Stock class...Luke

bill dedman · 03-11-2009, 10:24 PM

>>> I wrote, "And, if they are not available yet, how can ANYONE think that the factor is wrong, if they don't have access to the mechanical specs that determine that factor?"

Nobody has responded to this, yet, and I'm still wondering what the answer might be.

Jeremy (or, Jerry?)???????

Chris DeGidio · 03-12-2009, 07:23 PM

I think there will be a few 5.9's running .

DonatoEng · 03-12-2009, 08:12 PM

The engine specs will be posted soon by NHRA. The three engines are specific to the Challenger package car only and are not the same as the production cars.

Tom, S and S/S rating possible.

The transmissions available are a 5 speed auto or a 6 speed manual.

bigshow2966 · 03-12-2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnumv8

That Challenger does not appear to be a "package car" (you can see the factory engine on the floor...these cars are to leave the "factory" already modified ready to be personalized....the Indy engine is right from Indy.....probably a lot bigger than a 6.1 and has 2600 cfm of throttle bodies on it.....

Correct. That is Dave Duell's car and it was built from a V-6 street car. I saw it at the Indy Cylinder Head swap last weekend, it is one nice car.

03-11-2009, 07:56 PM	#11
magnumv8 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Coraopolis, Pa. Posts: 172 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating The Challengers being "package cars" of which only 50 need to be built to be approved by NHRA DO NOT have to have the factory stock heads,intakes, etc, that a legal "stocker" is required to have.....they are required to have the parts Chrysler tells NHRA that they installed when they left the facility.....I have seen the engines in the cars and the hood scoop was required to clear the huge hi-rise intake and 4 hole throttle body on top, NHRA wants the scoop changed for the approval....The "07" 6.1 was rated 370hp by Chrysler and factored to 420hp by NHRA.....in testing the et. being run by the Challenger equates to approx. 600hp for 6.1 auto package....like the '68 package cars I think you will see a lot of attention paid to the performance of the new Dodge and Ford cars as everyone gets more time to tweak them to the max....the microscope is polished and has a big NHRA eyeball in it.....

03-11-2009, 08:13 PM	#12
magnumv8 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Coraopolis, Pa. Posts: 172 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating That Challenger does not appear to be a "package car" (you can see the factory engine on the floor...these cars are to leave the "factory" already modified ready to be personalized....the Indy engine is right from Indy.....probably a lot bigger than a 6.1 and has 2600 cfm of throttle bodies on it.....

03-11-2009, 08:15 PM	#13
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,817 Likes: 2,144 Liked 2,323 Times in 546 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating Do they have to build fifty of each? If so, I wonder how long it would take for each to be legal? Keep in mind that the customers got to choose which motor. I bet that most orders were for the 6.1.

03-11-2009, 09:30 PM	#14
magnumv8 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Coraopolis, Pa. Posts: 172 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating No one has been real clear on that yet....According to Chrysler the cars can be ordered by part # and there is supposed to be 6 part #'s......each engine with either a 4sp or auto......according to the rulebook the special run of "50" units says only on an already accepted "body" style doesn't mention drivetrain.....

03-11-2009, 09:35 PM	#15
rx dealer Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lake Orion, Michigan Posts: 337 Likes: 12 Liked 53 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating Tom, the horsepower ratings are for Stock class...Luke

03-11-2009, 10:24 PM	#16
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating >>> I wrote, "And, if they are not available yet, how can ANYONE think that the factor is wrong, if they don't have access to the mechanical specs that determine that factor?" Nobody has responded to this, yet, and I'm still wondering what the answer might be. Jeremy (or, Jerry?)??????? __________________ Bill

03-12-2009, 07:23 PM	#17
Chris DeGidio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 364 Likes: 8 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating I think there will be a few 5.9's running . __________________ Nautilus Racing

03-12-2009, 08:12 PM	#18
DonatoEng Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 147 Likes: 12 Liked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Challenger H/P rating The engine specs will be posted soon by NHRA. The three engines are specific to the Challenger package car only and are not the same as the production cars. Tom, S and S/S rating possible. The transmissions available are a 5 speed auto or a 6 speed manual. Last edited by DonatoEng; 03-12-2009 at 08:14 PM.