Single wheelie bar

Signman · 11-13-2009, 05:00 PM

Have seen the car and the wheelie bar. It is an aluminum plate that uses cover mounting studs. It is sandwiched between the housing and cover presumably with longer studs. No additional mounting or attachment. Very cool.

larrylomascolo · 11-13-2009, 08:04 PM

Troy Henderson a/s also has built a single wheelie bar as mentioned in a previous post here.

Ed Wright · 11-13-2009, 08:17 PM

I'm seeing more singles all the time. I put a set of regular bars on mine, and about the second time I tested with them it got up on them too hard at Tulsa, and I about took out the tree. I took them back off, until I can figure out how to use them. Been looking hard at going to a single bar. Slate Cummings has a single bar on his LS1 stocker. Looks like a good deal to me.

J Kuchel · 11-13-2009, 09:01 PM

I see them used on small tire stockers mostly but, will they work as well on a big tire car like a super stock or a bracket car?

Jimi B · 11-13-2009, 09:16 PM

With the single wheelie bar, there is less roll resistance. Also, I would imagine that it takes possible unnecessary adjustments out of the equation, making it easier to tune the suspension and probably adding to consistency.

Duane Eiskant II · 11-13-2009, 11:17 PM

The one that Ken Keir makes is probly the neatest set up for a 12 bolt. If i remember right it sandwhiches a plate between the housing and rear cover so when working on the gear its completely out of the way. He was advertising it at the MIR race this fall but cant remember how much it was. Hell of a nice guy to talk to as well. Been building comp cars longer then ive been alive, very good name. Dave F posted his info a page back.

Bruce Fulper · 11-14-2009, 09:54 PM

Bob Bales invented this back in the 80's. Go to Autoimagery.com and look at the massive bar he uses.

Adger Smith · 11-15-2009, 05:09 AM

Lighter.. How much does unsprung weight hurt your shock/spring setup?

Troy Henderson · 11-15-2009, 05:58 PM

Here's mine in action.

Ken's is simplier in that it bolts directly to the housing. Mine has the lower bar going to brackets on the housing and the top is tied into my bolt on anti-roll. You can easily bolt to the top or the frame rails if you don't wan't to mess with an anitroll. The advantage with mine is it doesn't pivot with the axle, it stays stationary when the car launches. This keeps the rear tires from unloading. If you watch the wheel in my video it barely moves when I drop the clutch. I have been wanting to build a bunch of them but I just haven't had the time so if any wants to learn more shoot me an email and I'd be happy to fill you in.

Would you believe I had to use a 560lb-in spring to make it work the was I liked it

11-13-2009, 05:00 PM	#1
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar Have seen the car and the wheelie bar. It is an aluminum plate that uses cover mounting studs. It is sandwiched between the housing and cover presumably with longer studs. No additional mounting or attachment. Very cool. __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"

11-13-2009, 08:04 PM	#2
larrylomascolo Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ontario,canada Posts: 440 Likes: 70 Liked 66 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar Troy Henderson a/s also has built a single wheelie bar as mentioned in a previous post here.

11-13-2009, 08:17 PM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar I'm seeing more singles all the time. I put a set of regular bars on mine, and about the second time I tested with them it got up on them too hard at Tulsa, and I about took out the tree. I took them back off, until I can figure out how to use them. Been looking hard at going to a single bar. Slate Cummings has a single bar on his LS1 stocker. Looks like a good deal to me. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

11-13-2009, 09:01 PM	#4
J Kuchel Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sterling,Illinois Posts: 111 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar I see them used on small tire stockers mostly but, will they work as well on a big tire car like a super stock or a bracket car?

11-13-2009, 09:16 PM	#5
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar With the single wheelie bar, there is less roll resistance. Also, I would imagine that it takes possible unnecessary adjustments out of the equation, making it easier to tune the suspension and probably adding to consistency.

11-13-2009, 11:17 PM	#6
Duane Eiskant II Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 501 Likes: 261 Liked 57 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar The one that Ken Keir makes is probly the neatest set up for a 12 bolt. If i remember right it sandwhiches a plate between the housing and rear cover so when working on the gear its completely out of the way. He was advertising it at the MIR race this fall but cant remember how much it was. Hell of a nice guy to talk to as well. Been building comp cars longer then ive been alive, very good name. Dave F posted his info a page back. __________________ Duane Eiskant 1354 Stock/Super Stock

11-14-2009, 09:54 PM	#7
Bruce Fulper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 651 Likes: 4 Liked 54 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar Bob Bales invented this back in the 80's. Go to Autoimagery.com and look at the massive bar he uses.

11-15-2009, 05:09 AM	#8
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar Lighter.. How much does unsprung weight hurt your shock/spring setup? __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

11-15-2009, 05:58 PM	#9
Troy Henderson Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kansas City Posts: 411 Likes: 126 Liked 130 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Single wheelie bar Here's mine in action. Ken's is simplier in that it bolts directly to the housing. Mine has the lower bar going to brackets on the housing and the top is tied into my bolt on anti-roll. You can easily bolt to the top or the frame rails if you don't wan't to mess with an anitroll. The advantage with mine is it doesn't pivot with the axle, it stays stationary when the car launches. This keeps the rear tires from unloading. If you watch the wheel in my video it barely moves when I drop the clutch. I have been wanting to build a bunch of them but I just haven't had the time so if any wants to learn more shoot me an email and I'd be happy to fill you in. Would you believe I had to use a 560lb-in spring to make it work the was I liked it __________________ Troy Henderson Henderson Race Shop LLC 816-520-5389 www.hendersonraceshop.com