Another cool stocker! - Page 3

GTX JOHN · 11-22-2009, 09:59 PM

The pictured car belongs to a friend of mine. It is a 413 Max Wedge with the lower compression 11:1 Engine.
It carried a factory rating of 410 HP..... It is currently factored at 395 HP and although it was just built it has run 1.0 plus under. The owner also runs a 66 Dodge Hemi Stocker and has cleaned my clock numerous times at both National and Divisionals!

bill dedman · 11-23-2009, 01:21 AM

Thanks for the information, John! That's a fitting "sister car" to the D Stock Automatic car of Bennett/Widuch!

Rich Biebel · 11-23-2009, 07:29 AM

The first GatorNationals in 1970 was won by a '62 Plymouth 383/343. Tommy Callahan drove it & Frank Sulc was his partner. The car was called the Villain........I always liked the car......

Joe Kenney also ran a '62 Plymouth wagon at that time. It was called the "Trick Tank".......Joe was a good guy and liked to have fun. I can recall drinking a couple beers at the "beer stand" with him at Sanair.......Yes they sold beer in the pits and by the case! They also had a bar in the tower......

D.Holly · 11-23-2009, 09:13 AM

There are a couple more 343 hp. 62 Plymouths that have been running NHRA even before the Bennett D/SA.
Logan Wernet E/SA in div.5 and Dan Walcott E/SA in div. 3

X-TECH MAN · 11-23-2009, 10:18 AM

Joe Kenneys "Trick Tank" wagon was a 62 Dodge.

Rich Biebel · 11-23-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Joe Kenneys "Trick Tank" wagon was a 62 Dodge.

OK Terry if you say so............It's been a while...LOL!!! Dodge, Plymouth.....How 'bout a nice Desoto.....I owned two myself. Cheap street wheels....1 '58 and 1 '59......Both 361's. Real boats!

X-TECH MAN · 11-23-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

OK Terry if you say so............It's been a while...LOL!!! Dodge, Plymouth.....How 'bout a nice Desoto.....I owned two myself. Cheap street wheels....1 '58 and 1 '59......Both 361's. Real boats!

I didnt mean anything by pointing it out but the Plymouth wouldnt make the 10.5 lb class even as a 3 passenger Fury. It was to lite and they were still rated at 343 HP back in the day plus running the wt. where they fell in the guide. . . The Dodge had to be a 9 passenger (3 seater like the Behemouth) to make the class. This was when you were not allowed to adjust your wt. and had to run the class where it fell in the class guide. Troxells old Plymouth wagon (before the Oldsmobiles) ran a class higher than Joe. Its confusing now to remember now that we can adjust the wt. up and down the natural class.

Rich Biebel · 11-23-2009, 12:57 PM

I remember it exactly as you say Terry. Cars were picked and built a lot because they fell right on the weight break. The car was weighed without the driver and the drivers weight was not a factor. We were so "green" in those early years we never considerd the drivers weight! I think you were allowed 5 gallons of gas. We once set the record and had to pump all the fuel out of the car into a can. That run was disallowed as we were too close to the minimum weight. The driver weighed well over 200 lbs at the time!

Mark Yacavone · 11-23-2009, 02:44 PM

These cars fell at 16.02 . That's why there were quite a few of them. Some are still around.
I t certainly wasn't for the glamor !

oldmopar · 10-31-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

The first GatorNationals in 1970 was won by a '62 Plymouth 383/343. Tommy Callahan drove it & Frank Sulc was his partner. The car was called the Villain........I always liked the car......

Joe Kenney also ran a '62 Plymouth wagon at that time. It was called the "Trick Tank".......Joe was a good guy and liked to have fun. I can recall drinking a couple beers at the "beer stand" with him at Sanair.......Yes they sold beer in the pits and by the case! They also had a bar in the tower......

the villain was always an awesome car, and still is i have it sitting in my garage right now! the end of the my dad bought the car in early 80 after it was tubbed and caged by don ness and raced by rick johnson who now runs a hemi dart after my dad got it the car was bracket raced with a max wedge. but the car is still up and alive anyone have some old photos of it?

11-22-2009, 09:59 PM	#21
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,733 Likes: 2,803 Liked 2,486 Times in 697 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! The pictured car belongs to a friend of mine. It is a 413 Max Wedge with the lower compression 11:1 Engine. It carried a factory rating of 410 HP..... It is currently factored at 395 HP and although it was just built it has run 1.0 plus under. The owner also runs a 66 Dodge Hemi Stocker and has cleaned my clock numerous times at both National and Divisionals!

11-23-2009, 01:21 AM	#22
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! Thanks for the information, John! That's a fitting "sister car" to the D Stock Automatic car of Bennett/Widuch! __________________ Bill

11-23-2009, 07:29 AM	#23
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! The first GatorNationals in 1970 was won by a '62 Plymouth 383/343. Tommy Callahan drove it & Frank Sulc was his partner. The car was called the Villain........I always liked the car...... Joe Kenney also ran a '62 Plymouth wagon at that time. It was called the "Trick Tank".......Joe was a good guy and liked to have fun. I can recall drinking a couple beers at the "beer stand" with him at Sanair.......Yes they sold beer in the pits and by the case! They also had a bar in the tower...... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R Last edited by Rich Biebel; 11-23-2009 at 07:50 AM.

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D.Holly Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mid Michigan Posts: 149 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! There are a couple more 343 hp. 62 Plymouths that have been running NHRA even before the Bennett D/SA. Logan Wernet E/SA in div.5 and Dan Walcott E/SA in div. 3

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X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! Joe Kenneys "Trick Tank" wagon was a 62 Dodge.

11-23-2009, 12:57 PM	#28
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! I remember it exactly as you say Terry. Cars were picked and built a lot because they fell right on the weight break. The car was weighed without the driver and the drivers weight was not a factor. We were so "green" in those early years we never considerd the drivers weight! I think you were allowed 5 gallons of gas. We once set the record and had to pump all the fuel out of the car into a can. That run was disallowed as we were too close to the minimum weight. The driver weighed well over 200 lbs at the time! __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

11-23-2009, 02:44 PM	#29
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,818 Likes: 2,909 Liked 5,126 Times in 1,954 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! These cars fell at 16.02 . That's why there were quite a few of them. Some are still around. I t certainly wasn't for the glamor ! __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers