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Old 12-02-2009, 07:14 PM   #21
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Thanks Jim, it did help. I understand the legality but I also know some of us racers are hypocrits. I bet if I went on Racingjunk.com and slashed the price to $5k it would be gone by the end of the week. It will be ok, the right buyer will come one day and we will make it legit, I haven't misrepresented the car and have been straight forward with any who has asked. Anyways, congrats to you Jim on your win up at SGMP, can't wait to see that car run again.


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I hope what I wrote will help you Smitty. I know personally that what you are asking for your car will be a great deal for someone! I have seen the car and seen it run. It is a very nice race car, even if it is a FORD! I hate to see you sell it. Jim
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:16 PM   #22
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Check your PM's Greg.

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the factory Olds car have NO VIN! so none of them have a title! Do the East Taxas cars come with a title?
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:38 PM   #23
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i didnt have any problem getting my dp challenger into canada only because i had all paper work.i dont think it would have gone good with out it.they were more interested in if i had any guns.i have been crossing the border for years with no problems,but i take titles to truck,trailor and car.after reading these posts ill keep the paper work for the challenger in the trailor no matter where i go.thanks for the heads up.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:50 PM   #24
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It is a very nice race car, even if it is a FORD! Jim
Them's hurtful words Jim.....
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:48 PM   #25
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the factory Olds car have NO VIN! so none of them have a title! Do the East Taxas cars come with a title?
I was wondering the same thing. I bought my Olds from Tom Kasch. It was a factory race car, I believe never titled. I still have the bill of sale from Tom, so should I carry it with me? If I were to get stopped, will they ask to see it and will it be "good enough"?
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:06 PM   #26
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I was wondering the same thing. I bought my Olds from Tom Kasch. It was a factory race car, I believe never titled. I still have the bill of sale from Tom, so should I carry it with me? If I were to get stopped, will they ask to see it and will it be "good enough"?
Mike,run it past your DMV and see if you can title it with the paperwork you have.If so,
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:18 AM   #27
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About 10 years ago, a -68 street Corvette on its way to be exported to Sweden was stopped by the US authorities in the harbour. They discovered that it was stolen from the first owner -71, 28 years before.
There had been serveral owners during the years, all acting in good faith, also the last seller.
Original owner got his car back (surprise!), and the Swede that was eagerly anticipating his new car got no refund from the seller, he got ...nothing...
So there's a good function of this system, even though the instrument is a bit blunt....
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:29 AM   #28
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Mike,run it past your DMV and see if you can title it with the paperwork you have.If so,
end of problem.
How do you title a vehicle without a VIN?
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:53 AM   #29
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My car did not have a title when I got it. All I had was a bill of sale. I had a buddy who was a lawyer get a court ordered title. I then took all of the paperwork to the state highway patrol who searched the car to try and find some sort of vin or identification number. Since they could not find anything (I told them they were wasting their time) they signed off on the paperwork and sent me on my way. I had to go back about 3 weeks later for them to pop rivet on a vin # assigned by the state. Then I registered it with the DMV as an off road/race car and only pay minimal personal property taxes every year. No tags, licenses or anything.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:13 PM   #30
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My Plymouth was 1 of the 4 chassis cars Herb McCandless did from a body in white in the early 80's. When I went to insure it (through Kincaid), he asked for a VIN, the car never had one, so I had to "create" one. The car has been Bill of sale only from day 1. I have the BOS from when I bought it, and from when the second owner bought it from the first.
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